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Originally posted by TheLadyMore View PostAlso I am writing a huge Kate part in my Sparky story you mind if I am done looking over it to make sure I keep her in character I will give you a cookie =D
Originally posted by Rosemary Weir22 View PostAnd thanks folks! Still trying to get used to the forum and everything!
Originally posted by gateraid View PostI guess now should be the time that a certain fandom should start eating crow regarding comments made about a certain other character being too old for John.
Originally posted by gateraid View PostRe Halling, there's something that's been bugging me about Halling/Jinto. I've read in fandom that Jinto is Halling's child, yet I've not really seen anything on the show to support this theory. It did look a bit like they used the whanau approach to child rearing whilst on Atlantis, but if Jinto was really his son, wouldn't he have at least mentioned him (as is have any of you seen my son, did Michael turn him into a bug) during Kindred II?Originally posted by Eri13 View PostI thought it was established in Hide and Seek that Jinto was Halling's son? Or was it never explicitly stated?
Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostWould pulling out the crystals prevent incoming wormholes from connecting to the Atlantis gate, though? I'm not sure that would work. Of course, I'm no expert in how the gate works.
Also, the address isn't connected to the stargate but to the position of the planet within a system, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to pluck gates from planets in SG1 to use elsewhere. (though don't quote me on that - I would have to do a rewatch of SG1 to be sure)
Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostSR, Eri, do either of you have any additional suggestions?
As much as it pains me... you should watch this too, JT-2. Concerning the development on a Lemming-related character in Rising.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
Proper Stargate Rewatch -- season 10 of SG-1
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Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostI don't think it will be enough... cause the DHD in Antarctica was bust as well when Carter and O'Neill were trapped there, and the gate was still operational otherwise a wormhole deviation hadn't been possible.
Also, the address isn't connected to the stargate but to the position of the planet within a system, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to pluck gates from planets in SG1 to use elsewhere. (though don't quote me on that - I would have to do a rewatch of SG1 to be sure)
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostSeason 4 - Doppelganger
As much as it pains me... you should watch this too, JT-2. Concerning the development on a Lemming-related character in Rising.
*offers the Lemming a bowl of sugar as a peace offering*(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by JT-2 View PostOr a lobotomy....
So, question for the SGARising staff. I'm thinking I need to do a S4/S5 rewatch in preparation for this as I only have vague memories of most of those seasons. What episodes should I watch, or conversely, what episodes can I skipTrio & Brainstorm for the love of all things holy?
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostSK and FH covered it. Anything outside the main arcs isn't necessary.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Hey, on my iPod so just dropping a few lines:
On the subject of removing the control crystals, that really only has to do with dialing out. When they're removed from the DHD, you have to manually dial the Gate or, like Sam Carter did, build a dialing computer. You can still get incoming wormholes. I'm now curious, though. Because the Pegasus Gates have 8 chevron addresses, would that in any way affect being dialed in from a 7 chevron addy from the Milky Way?
Ok. Brain just exploded.
Ooh, and I got that full time school job I've been applying for since January! Normally scheduled life, here I come!
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostJust looking at the final count, there's quite a bit more unnecessary stuff in S5 than S4. This surprises me, and I'm not quite sure why.sigpicsig by SueKay
My Team:
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostIt was made clear first in The Rising and later in H&S that Jinto is Halling's son. That, in my mind, made the Athosians a traditional society. Maybe everyone helps raise the kids, but the family units are intact. I think they just dropped him in Kindred which doesn't surprise me with these writers. Maybe he was "there" but not obvious, like Kanaan all of Teyla's life. LOL Just because we don't see a character, doesn't mean they are not there.I tell you Teal'c, hockey is the coolest game on Earth!
Did you not say it is played on ice, O'Neill?
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Originally posted by ShipperWriter View PostHey, on my iPod so just dropping a few lines:
On the subject of removing the control crystals, that really only has to do with dialing out. When they're removed from the DHD, you have to manually dial the Gate or, like Sam Carter did, build a dialing computer. You can still get incoming wormholes. I'm now curious, though. Because the Pegasus Gates have 8 chevron addresses, would that in any way affect being dialed in from a 7 chevron addy from the Milky Way?
Ok. Brain just exploded.
Originally posted by ShipperWriter View PostOoh, and I got that full time school job I've been applying for since January! Normally scheduled life, here I come!
Originally posted by Irish Eyes View PostI remember at the time season 4 just had a better flow (even though I hated what they were doing). I think the writers actually had to do some planning in that season because they were writing out Elizabeth and working around Rachel's pregnancy. Season 5 just sort of seemed like a hodge podge of stuff thrown together.
Of course, our arcs for Atlantis Rising will be better.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by ShipperWriter View PostHey, on my iPod so just dropping a few lines:
On the subject of removing the control crystals, that really only has to do with dialing out. When they're removed from the DHD, you have to manually dial the Gate or, like Sam Carter did, build a dialing computer. You can still get incoming wormholes. I'm now curious, though. Because the Pegasus Gates have 8 chevron addresses, would that in any way affect being dialed in from a 7 chevron addy from the Milky Way?
Ok. Brain just exploded.
Ooh, and I got that full time school job I've been applying for since January! Normally scheduled life, here I come!I tell you Teal'c, hockey is the coolest game on Earth!
Did you not say it is played on ice, O'Neill?
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostWould pulling out the crystals prevent incoming wormholes from connecting to the Atlantis gate, though? I'm not sure that would work. Of course, I'm no expert in how the gate works.
Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostFunny thing is, there's a brief shot in Season 1's "Suspicion" of an Athosian who looks kinda sorta like Kanaan. It's not Patrick Sabongui (as far as I know), but the guy looks enough like PS that I'm willing to suspend my disbelief and think that he's just a younger Kanaan.
Spoiler:
And here's one of the publicity still of PS as Kanaan in "The Kindred, Part 1" (it's REALLY big)
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I'm thinking it was just a rumor.
As far as we know, yeah, the Earth gate is still at Cheyenne Mountain. As for cutting power to the Atlantis gate, I suppose it could be done without pulling the plug on the ZPMs... don't want to accidentally drop the cloak and reveal Atlantis to an unsuspecting world, after all. Teehee.
Originally posted by JT-2 View PostOr a lobotomy....
So, question for the SGARising staff. I'm thinking I need to do a S4/S5 rewatch in preparation for this as I only have vague memories of most of those seasons. What episodes should I watch, or conversely, what episodes can I skipTrio & Brainstorm for the love of all things holy?
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostYou can always ask me to look it over for you... as far as everyone else is concerned I'm apparently the foremost expert on everything Heightmeyer related.
Post more so that you can really join in, without having your posts moderated (it's a newbie-thing to allow the board admins to determine whether you are a real person or a bot).
Oopsies...
I'm in the process of collection information just to answer questions like these. Only just started so you'll have to be patient.
I don't think it will be enough... cause the DHD in Antarctica was bust as well when Carter and O'Neill were trapped there, and the gate was still operational otherwise a wormhole deviation hadn't been possible.
Also, the address isn't connected to the stargate but to the position of the planet within a system, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to pluck gates from planets in SG1 to use elsewhere. (though don't quote me on that - I would have to do a rewatch of SG1 to be sure)
Originally posted by ShipperWriter View PostHey, on my iPod so just dropping a few lines:
On the subject of removing the control crystals, that really only has to do with dialing out. When they're removed from the DHD, you have to manually dial the Gate or, like Sam Carter did, build a dialing computer. You can still get incoming wormholes. I'm now curious, though. Because the Pegasus Gates have 8 chevron addresses, would that in any way affect being dialed in from a 7 chevron addy from the Milky Way?
Ok. Brain just exploded.
Ooh, and I got that full time school job I've been applying for since January! Normally scheduled life, here I come!
Originally posted by mandogater View PostI think Jinto fell into one of those annoying plot holes that kept creeping on to the set.
Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostAll Stargates, whether Milky Way, Pegasus, or from the seeder ships Destiny is following, have nine chevrons. So any of them can theoretically dial out or in with a 7, 8 or 9 symbol address. Whether or not they succeed depends on if there's enough power to actually make the connection.
That's got to be the explanation. S4 was definitely more arc-driven than S5.sigpic
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostJust looking at the final count, there's quite a bit more unnecessary stuff in S5 than S4. This surprises me, and I'm not quite sure why.
Originally posted by ShipperWriter View PostHey, on my iPod so just dropping a few lines:
On the subject of removing the control crystals, that really only has to do with dialing out. When they're removed from the DHD, you have to manually dial the Gate or, like Sam Carter did, build a dialing computer. You can still get incoming wormholes. I'm now curious, though. Because the Pegasus Gates have 8 chevron addresses, would that in any way affect being dialed in from a 7 chevron addy from the Milky Way?
Ok. Brain just exploded.
Ooh, and I got that full time school job I've been applying for since January! Normally scheduled life, here I come!
And super congrats on the job.
Originally posted by Irish Eyes View PostI remember at the time season 4 just had a better flow (even though I hated what they were doing). I think the writers actually had to do some planning in that season because they were writing out Elizabeth and working around Rachel's pregnancy. Season 5 just sort of seemed like a hodge podge of stuff thrown together.
Originally posted by mandogater View PostI think Jinto fell into one of those annoying plot holes that kept creeping on to the set.
Originally posted by gateraid View Post
I'm not a fan of retconning, but it's actually plausible in this case. They look surprisingly similar. Plus, in that second one, it's new!Ashley from Sanctuary. It is her, right?
There must have been a time dilation field within that hole, as he reappears older in Homecoming.
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Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Screw the Angst Wednesday!
Originally posted by gateraid View PostIt's my understanding that an incoming wormhole isn't affected by power ie it doesn't matter if there is NO power in the gate or DHD, it will still establish a wormhole so long as there is enough space for a kawoosh, which is why burying the gate worked. However, they've screwed with that a few times - wormholes have established whilst the iris has been closed, which should either disintegrate the iris or nullify the connection
Originally posted by gateraid View PostI'm not a fan of retconning, but it's actually plausible in this case. They look surprisingly similar. Plus, in that second one, it's new!Ashley from Sanctuary. It is her, right?
Originally posted by gateraid View PostAs I say, they've fudged it a little. But presumably the power for the gate is somewhat isolated - they only need the ZPM for an eight chevron address. They managed an entire season by using generators, so presumably they'd have done the same from s2 onwards to conserve the ZPM? It's a guess at any rate. The SGC is either using its own generators, or using good old 3-phase power to run its gate.
Originally posted by gateraid View PostThe lists have been pretty well covered by others. I only managed to get as far as The Queen on my recent rewatch. An interesting aside - John said in Whispers that Carson had been on R & R for six months, and Carson said he'd been in the pod for two. So six months between the end of The Seed and the start of Whispers, but two months from the end of Kindred II until the start of The Seed? No wonder people get confused.
Originally posted by gateraid View PostPretty much. S4 = oh noes! Weir is a replicator, lets kill them all so she can't come back. s5 = oh ****! we don't have any villians, we'll have to actually write some character stories
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostIt almost seems like they ran out of ideas. *scratches head*
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostI think that part is about right. If in The Rising Jinto was age 12-early teens, he would correctly be 17 in Homecoming.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostAnd yet, they left other promising ideas they had already introduced hanging without any resolution. *cough*Elizabeth*cough*BALCONIES
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Originally posted by TheLadyMore View PostDon't worry as I proposed to SR the writers of The Legacy had it covered. Liz is gonna fall fro the sky onto Kates replacement killing her on impact. I have a funny feeling some Lemming will have to do with it.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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