On to part two. I have lots to say.
I got some info here about the Athosians and there was another entry that I can't find now that said they had to be very welcoming of outsiders to protect the gene pool. That would make sense in a way because they did welcome Ronon into the fold and would solve the inbreeding problem. Yet it conflicts with their fierce "nationalism" for lack of a better more educated term that I snurched from Sociology.
This behavior contradicts the theory I mentioned above yet makes sense if you go by the idea that joining the "tribe" makes you an Athosian. There may even be a ceremony to honor newcomers. Interesting idea. But if the new member is required to denounce their former people, it may not work. I can't picture Ronon standing up and declaring he is no longer a Satedan. So it may all be very casual.
John also left in The Return 1 because the Air Force said he had to. He could easily have resigned his commission and stayed.
I'm reading a book now set in colonial America that told me more than I ever wanted to know about reusable condoms made of sheep's gut. OMG. Anyway, since Teyla got pregnant by accident when she passed Kanaan in the food line one day, they must be a fertile people. Birth control would be a must unless they need babiez to sacrifice to the Wraith. Which would make as much sense as the polyamorous stuff. *sarcastic roll of the eyes*
I think you just justified the nomad status, but aside from living in tents, I don't see any evidence of nomadic life. They had obviously been on Athos a long time. They planted crops which would make them semi-nomadic at best. They were a relatively primitive farming/hunting culture in my views. And since it's another galaxy, Earth sociology doesn't apply. They're a conglomerate of many types of societies. But canon shows them to be structured, family oriented, relatively religious, reserved in behavior regarding courtship and fairly ritualistic.
Didn't they say the Pegasus natives stayed relatively un-technological so as not to attract the Wraith?
I never thought about that. I always thought they were just what we saw depending on how many extras they could afford. LOL In The Rising there were quite a few tents in the settlement so that was a pretty good group.
Joe certainly thinks age doesn't matter considering what he said on Friday. LOL
At one point, I forget when, they talked about an Athosian council.
Originally posted by Anuna
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Marrying among other Pegasus nationalities seems reasonable, but I have a feeling the Athosians are pretty strict when it coms to not abandoning your original group. Remeber how Teyla is all about mypeoplemypeopleMYFREAKINPEOPLE. Which possibly means whoever married a Athosian also becomes an Athosian (which is another reason why I just don't see John with Teyla. He picked a side at the very beginning, in 'Suspicion' andit wasn't Athosan side. I higly doubt he would become one. Hey, don't glare at me. It's canon. )
John also left in The Return 1 because the Air Force said he had to. He could easily have resigned his commission and stayed.
On safe sex, I wouldn't say they don't know how to protect themselves from unwated pregnancies. Many old cultures from Earth had a very good idea about preventing pregnancies. Do you know that Ancient Egyptians used condoms? Granted, those weren't as efficient as modern ones, but I wouldn't assume that Athosians are completely unaware of how procreation works. Not advnaced doesn't equate to being completely ignorant. (that still doesn't prove they're polyamorous nomads, lol).
Also, if Athosians (obviously) don't use technology, how much of a treat are they to Wraith? "My people are strong and proud" and they're fierce warriors yadda yadda yadda is all nice, but you can't really go to fight with couple of sticks against space vampyres with stunners. Just few things that bother me when Athosians are in question.
IMO, they are not technologically advanced and rely on farming, hunting and hiding strategies when Wraith hunt them down. I doubt they actuall fight against wraith. They are obviously traders, and trading for information probably helps them stay safe and hidden/avoid the Wraight (which is simply my assumption, because it wasn't mentioned in canon, but tell me - how logical it is for a relatively small group of people to stay on the sameplanet, relatively unprotected and not move when they learn the Wraith are about to strike? Then again, if the Wraith attacks happened once in fifty years....).
I assume Athosians have useful connections, specially for trading for crops and other kinds of food, but on large scale of things? I doubt they're big players in Pegasus.
IMO, they are not technologically advanced and rely on farming, hunting and hiding strategies when Wraith hunt them down. I doubt they actuall fight against wraith. They are obviously traders, and trading for information probably helps them stay safe and hidden/avoid the Wraight (which is simply my assumption, because it wasn't mentioned in canon, but tell me - how logical it is for a relatively small group of people to stay on the sameplanet, relatively unprotected and not move when they learn the Wraith are about to strike? Then again, if the Wraith attacks happened once in fifty years....).
I assume Athosians have useful connections, specially for trading for crops and other kinds of food, but on large scale of things? I doubt they're big players in Pegasus.
Originally posted by gateraid
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I'm also not sure on the lineage of the Athosians. In The Gift, we learn that the Athosians actually split in two, when the group that the Wraith had experimented on were expelled from the rest of the community. I got the general impression that the Athosians were a much larger population, perhaps spread out over quite a few settlements.
It really irks me, mostly because of the double standard (and Torri does not look old). From what I've observed, the people that say Weir looks too old for Shep use that as a justification for a Shep/Teyla pairing. Teyla is supposed to quite a bit younger than John (and I find Teyla looks older than Rachel, that wig ages her). But age is a secondary issue anyway.
Which, given how important the Wraith are to the show, you'd think we'd know.
Which, given how important the Wraith are to the show, you'd think we'd know.
Originally posted by gateraid
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