Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[Scary Kitty]

I was going to do a drive by forum read, but I had to comment...I LOVE METALLICA! I WOULD SO KARAOKE METALLICA!!! I once scored 98% on the ultra hard version of "Enter Sandman" for vocals on Rock Band. James Hetfield...SCHYEAH!

Sweet!

No, the 'own plot point' would be something new--it's have to be something after EATG, because if my scenario were real by EATG he was still thinking it was all real and not a replicator-induced-dream. So we'd have to come up with the plot that would make him start to question whether it was real.

CB was supposed to be CG for Common Ground, I think. I don't remember.

The IOA tries to keep Atlantis on Earth (despite the utter insanity of trying to hide a flying city the size of Manhattan hidden from the world) and tries to replace the entire expedition with their own hand-picked brainwashed drones.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

No, the 'own plot point' would be something new--it's have to be something after EATG, because if my scenario were real by EATG he was still thinking it was all real and not a replicator-induced-dream. So we'd have to come up with the plot that would make him start to question whether it was real.

CB was supposed to be CG for Common Ground, I think. I don't remember.

oh okay well this sounds like a good plot for a story fic.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

Sweet!



The IOA tries to keep Atlantis on Earth (despite the utter insanity of trying to hide a flying city the size of Manhattan hidden from the world) and tries to replace the entire expedition with their own hand-picked brainwashed drones.

that would've happened even if it's wasn't a dream those IOA are a bunch of Power Controlling Hypocrites i mean they wouldn't let john go after elizabeth when she went missing. hell they put one of their own in charge with woolsey so i could care less about The International Oversight Advisory.

[pkprd869]

I like Metallica, especially their early music. I'm with SK the movie will never get made. I'll be honeymooning with Emily Deschanel before we see "Extinction" on the big screen.

Some OT'ness

Spoiler:

Just watched S2EP9 of Sanctuary. MS and the new girl had great banter about the Windy City. Props to TPTB for being accurate about the city. And MS was even cooler as Sox fan. Loved the "GO WHITE SOX" while he's got a gun at his head. Spoken like a true south sider.

[Scary Kitty]

I like Metallica, especially their early music. I'm with SK the movie will never get made. I'll be honeymooning with Emily Deschanel before we see "Extinction" on the big screen.

HAH!

Some OT'ness

Spoiler:

Just watched S2EP9 of Sanctuary. MS and the new girl had great banter about the Windy City. Props to TPTB for being accurate about the city. And MS was even cooler as Sox fan. Loved the "GO WHITE SOX" while he's got a gun at his head. Spoken like a true south sider.

Hmm,

Spoiler:

I don't watch Sanctuary, but I may have to check that one out just for the giggles.

[Scary Kitty]

The Obsession List continues!

Spoiler:

1. We are officially obsessed with John/Elizabeth when someone posts a pic with ice sculpture and we all see Sparky in it.
2. .....when I see my boss and I wonder what he would think if I give him a hug.
3. when every new song I hear turns into a Sparky fanmix in my head...
4. When I look in a catalog at this year's collection of UGG boots and imagine John getting Elizabeth a pair of them for Christmas...
5. When your XBOX gamer tag is Sparky4evr...
6. When upon receiving your free copy of SIMS3, your first thought is "Oh, I can make Elizabeth and John and make them fall in love, get married and make Sparky bebbies!"
7. When you write oodles of fanfiction fixing the mess on the show so that you can get John and Elizabeth together.
8. When 98.9% of your sketchbook is filled with drawings of either Sparky or their kids.
9. When you buy the John and Elizabeth action figures just to put them in... 'compromising positions.'
10. When the majority of your conversations with your friends inevitably mention Sparky in some form or another
11. When you look on various websites for mixed drinks for a "Sparky" cocktail. And find one.
12. when you see the words sparky or John and Elizabeth in the same sentence.
13. When you are reading a book about firetrucks to your kids and can't help but grin like an idiot when you read that the fire dog's name is...yup...you guessed it...SPARKY!
14. When you name one of your hair colour mixes "Sparky Red".
15. When your computer is a veritable shrine to Sparky: wallpaper, folders full of pics, artwork, more wallpapers, fanfics...
16. When you drive by the local marina and giggle knowingly at a yacht named 'Sparky.'
17. When you've worked out the only difference between your ex-principle and Elizabeth is that your principle doesn't have a Sedge, and you try to work out who John is.
18. All of your favorite songs end up in your sparky fanfics, either as titles or quotes.
19. When you read other couples fanfiction and substitute John and Liz to see if it would work.
20. You read the Sparky Thread in the mornings instead of the news paper.
21. You print out Sparky fanfiction so you can read it away from your computer.
22. When this morning, you receive a call of Elizabeth from Atlantis and you can't stop smiling and imagine that there is maybe a John with her. But it was not the real Atlantis but just a name of a company and Elizabeth was the customer. (This is the second time this has happened)
23. You see a carnival with a ferris wheel and you immediately think of John taking Elizabeth for a ride.
24. Whenever you hear something else named Atlantis (Space Shuttles, Space Stations, ships, hotels, mythology) and you immediately make John & Elizabeth a part of the story.
25. When every time you see a couple with UST in another show, you think that Joe and Torri could do it better.
26. When asked what you would ask for if someone gave you a present and money wasn't an object, you immediately think of buying the rights to the franchise and making a movie so John and Elizabeth could get together.
27. You wished you could've been at the Fourth of July parade where David Hewlett and his wife cosplayed as John and Elizabeth to see them in person.
28. Red and black become your new favorite colors.
29. While watching your most favorite Christmas movie of all time, you can't help but wanna see John and Elizabeth in the big, romantic dance scene instead of the actual characters
30. You see kids playing with a dog that looks like Sedge and wonder if the kids are John and Elizabeth's.
31. you see a copy of war and peace and you wonder if john has a picture of elizabeth in it. or they read it together and wrote notes on the side to discuss the current chapter they are one.
32. Every time Joe or Torri guest stars in something other than SGA, you keep hoping to hear their characters give a closet Sparky mention.
33....at night when you "daydream" about potential Sparky fic ideas as you drift off to sleep....hoping for good sparky dreams..
34......when you have Sparky dreams more than 1 night a week....
35. When you're secretly pleased by the fact that your hair color is caught somewhere in the middle between John and Elizabeth's.
36. When you write Sparky fanfic anywhere, even in a doctor's waiting room.
37. When while buying your Christmas tree you wonder if John and Elizabeth would have a live or artificial one and picture them arguing about it.
38. When you're at a spin class, doing sprints, look down, see your seat is on the "E" setting and wonder "I wonder if John and/or Elizabeth would do this to keep in shape?"
39. when you see a couple of young kids and the girl gives the boy a hug and the boy is shocked and you wonder if john and elizabeth did that if they ever met as kids.
40. When you keep thinking about John and Elizabeth's favorite foods and you get the idea of doing an Atlantis cookbook. true story
41. When you have a plan to break your tv (without your parents suspect you, of course) just to see eyes/sex in good quality
42. When the first thing you think of when your TV dies is how much better Sparky will look on a new one.
43. When the first thing you watch on your new HDTV is one of your favorite Sparky episodes.
44. When you draw pictures of yourself with John and Elizabeth, just cause you love them so much.
45. When watching the ep "Home", after Elizabeth says something's not 'right' after Simon kisses her, you literally yell at the TV "That's because he's not John!"
46. You get a tattoo and wonder if John or Elizabeth has one.
47. You see a pendant that looks kinda-sorta like a stargate, and you think it would make a great present for John to give to Elizabeth.
48. You see a messy haired baby and think of Sparky babiez.
49. You begin thinking up new ideas to do 'manips' using them
50. You hear a song on the radio, and wonder if it would go well with a Sparky vid
51. You wonder if Elizabeth and John would go clothes shopping together and what kind of goofy fun they could get into
52. Seeing an ad for Christmas pajamas with candy canes on them makes you think about Sparky and gives you a smutty plot bunny.
53. Upon getting a Wii for Christmas you and your hubby look at each other and say, at the same time, "We can make John and Elizabeth Mii's"
54. You go to Disneyland, and while watching the Christmas fireworks show, they start playing 'I'll Be Home For Christmas,' and you think about how John and Lizzie won't be together for Christmas.
55. You and your fellow Sparkies come up with themes for every day of the week on what to discuss/fic/picspam about John and Elizabeth.
56. When getting ready for a night out a karaoke, you look at the Sparky Song List and pick songs from there to sing.
57. When your friends know your obsession enough to give you an absolutely amazing drawing of John and Elizabeth (that kissing manip I did) for a Christmas present.
58. And when you scream (really) and sink to the floor in happiness when you open said present.

59. You check the thread at least once every hour, eagerly awaiting the moment when the thread hits a new post milestone.

[Anuna]

Hey everyone - I wasn't around last two days, now I'm finally cathcing up with this place!

[drewandian]

Eri - don't get me wrong, I love Metallica too...I just have a healthy grasp on my singing limits and know that there is absolutely positively no way I could ever sing any of their stuff...I'm more of a chick rock kinda girl (Avril, Miley, Kelly, Evanescence, that kinda stuff)...or country...






The Obsession List continues!

Spoiler:

1. We are officially obsessed with John/Elizabeth when someone posts a pic with ice sculpture and we all see Sparky in it.
2. .....when I see my boss and I wonder what he would think if I give him a hug.
3. when every new song I hear turns into a Sparky fanmix in my head...
4. When I look in a catalog at this year's collection of UGG boots and imagine John getting Elizabeth a pair of them for Christmas...
5. When your XBOX gamer tag is Sparky4evr...
6. When upon receiving your free copy of SIMS3, your first thought is "Oh, I can make Elizabeth and John and make them fall in love, get married and make Sparky bebbies!"
7. When you write oodles of fanfiction fixing the mess on the show so that you can get John and Elizabeth together.
8. When 98.9% of your sketchbook is filled with drawings of either Sparky or their kids.
9. When you buy the John and Elizabeth action figures just to put them in... 'compromising positions.'
10. When the majority of your conversations with your friends inevitably mention Sparky in some form or another
11. When you look on various websites for mixed drinks for a "Sparky" cocktail. And find one.
12. when you see the words sparky or John and Elizabeth in the same sentence.
13. When you are reading a book about firetrucks to your kids and can't help but grin like an idiot when you read that the fire dog's name is...yup...you guessed it...SPARKY!
14. When you name one of your hair colour mixes "Sparky Red".
15. When your computer is a veritable shrine to Sparky: wallpaper, folders full of pics, artwork, more wallpapers, fanfics...
16. When you drive by the local marina and giggle knowingly at a yacht named 'Sparky.'
17. When you've worked out the only difference between your ex-principle and Elizabeth is that your principle doesn't have a Sedge, and you try to work out who John is.
18. All of your favorite songs end up in your sparky fanfics, either as titles or quotes.
19. When you read other couples fanfiction and substitute John and Liz to see if it would work.
20. You read the Sparky Thread in the mornings instead of the news paper.
21. You print out Sparky fanfiction so you can read it away from your computer.
22. When this morning, you receive a call of Elizabeth from Atlantis and you can't stop smiling and imagine that there is maybe a John with her. But it was not the real Atlantis but just a name of a company and Elizabeth was the customer. (This is the second time this has happened)
23. You see a carnival with a ferris wheel and you immediately think of John taking Elizabeth for a ride.
24. Whenever you hear something else named Atlantis (Space Shuttles, Space Stations, ships, hotels, mythology) and you immediately make John & Elizabeth a part of the story.
25. When every time you see a couple with UST in another show, you think that Joe and Torri could do it better.
26. When asked what you would ask for if someone gave you a present and money wasn't an object, you immediately think of buying the rights to the franchise and making a movie so John and Elizabeth could get together.
27. You wished you could've been at the Fourth of July parade where David Hewlett and his wife cosplayed as John and Elizabeth to see them in person.
28. Red and black become your new favorite colors.
29. While watching your most favorite Christmas movie of all time, you can't help but wanna see John and Elizabeth in the big, romantic dance scene instead of the actual characters
30. You see kids playing with a dog that looks like Sedge and wonder if the kids are John and Elizabeth's.
31. you see a copy of war and peace and you wonder if john has a picture of elizabeth in it. or they read it together and wrote notes on the side to discuss the current chapter they are one.
32. Every time Joe or Torri guest stars in something other than SGA, you keep hoping to hear their characters give a closet Sparky mention.
33....at night when you "daydream" about potential Sparky fic ideas as you drift off to sleep....hoping for good sparky dreams..
34......when you have Sparky dreams more than 1 night a week....
35. When you're secretly pleased by the fact that your hair color is caught somewhere in the middle between John and Elizabeth's.
36. When you write Sparky fanfic anywhere, even in a doctor's waiting room.
37. When while buying your Christmas tree you wonder if John and Elizabeth would have a live or artificial one and picture them arguing about it.
38. When you're at a spin class, doing sprints, look down, see your seat is on the "E" setting and wonder "I wonder if John and/or Elizabeth would do this to keep in shape?"
39. when you see a couple of young kids and the girl gives the boy a hug and the boy is shocked and you wonder if john and elizabeth did that if they ever met as kids.
40. When you keep thinking about John and Elizabeth's favorite foods and you get the idea of doing an Atlantis cookbook. true story
41. When you have a plan to break your tv (without your parents suspect you, of course) just to see eyes/sex in good quality
42. When the first thing you think of when your TV dies is how much better Sparky will look on a new one.
43. When the first thing you watch on your new HDTV is one of your favorite Sparky episodes.
44. When you draw pictures of yourself with John and Elizabeth, just cause you love them so much.
45. When watching the ep "Home", after Elizabeth says something's not 'right' after Simon kisses her, you literally yell at the TV "That's because he's not John!"
46. You get a tattoo and wonder if John or Elizabeth has one.
47. You see a pendant that looks kinda-sorta like a stargate, and you think it would make a great present for John to give to Elizabeth.
48. You see a messy haired baby and think of Sparky babiez.
49. You begin thinking up new ideas to do 'manips' using them
50. You hear a song on the radio, and wonder if it would go well with a Sparky vid
51. You wonder if Elizabeth and John would go clothes shopping together and what kind of goofy fun they could get into
52. Seeing an ad for Christmas pajamas with candy canes on them makes you think about Sparky and gives you a smutty plot bunny.
53. Upon getting a Wii for Christmas you and your hubby look at each other and say, at the same time, "We can make John and Elizabeth Mii's"
54. You go to Disneyland, and while watching the Christmas fireworks show, they start playing 'I'll Be Home For Christmas,' and you think about how John and Lizzie won't be together for Christmas.
55. You and your fellow Sparkies come up with themes for every day of the week on what to discuss/fic/picspam about John and Elizabeth.
56. When getting ready for a night out a karaoke, you look at the Sparky Song List and pick songs from there to sing.
57. When your friends know your obsession enough to give you an absolutely amazing drawing of John and Elizabeth (that kissing manip I did) for a Christmas present.
58. And when you scream (really) and sink to the floor in happiness when you open said present.
59. You check the thread at least once every hour, eagerly awaiting the moment when the thread hits a new post milestone.

You sing "Something to Talk About" at karaoke and almost start to giggle at the line "Stand just a little too close" because it makes you think of Sparky (well...I wanted to giggle at pretty much the whole song...)

yes...I did that...and hubby recorded it...we're going to try to get it uploaded tomorrow (well technically later today) and if it works I'll share it with you guys....

[Probie]

I'll see what I can do...you may end up with some Evanescence (I'm trying to get hubby to sing "Bring Me to Life" with me)

I've already got one vid on youtube...(shameless self-promotion)

Excellent

I like Metallica, especially their early music. I'm with SK the movie will never get made. I'll be honeymooning with Emily Deschanel before we see "Extinction" on the big screen.

Some OT'ness

Spoiler:

Just watched S2EP9 of Sanctuary. MS and the new girl had great banter about the Windy City. Props to TPTB for being accurate about the city. And MS was even cooler as Sox fan. Loved the "GO WHITE SOX" while he's got a gun at his head. Spoken like a true south sider.

I agree with all of you. I don't think there will be a SGA movie.
I'll see Emily Deschanel in real before a SGA movie. Yes, my homie I stole your idea.lol
But there is more hope for me. She has family where I live.lol

OT

Spoiler:

To avoid tears, you can peel your onions under water. There is also a trick with a match that you have to put between your teeth. You can chew chewing-gum or eat bread. And my very special technique, ask someone to do it.

OT

Spoiler:

My grandmother couldn't take her plane to come to France because of snow. : ( I hate snow

[Southern Red]

*cackles* Now we're cooking!



*giggles and sends more hot cocoa*



Officially, the SGA movie is "on hold," but unofficially, it's looking more and more like it's never going to happen. Fandemonium will be doing a mini-series of novels set after Enemy at the Gate that's supposed to tie up the loose threads from the end of the TV series, there's supposed to be a new series of comic books that's going to do a "Season 6," and of course, there's the audio dramas by Big Finish (word has it that their next series is going to be a 6-part story instead of individual stories; I don't know what it'll be about, though). The thing to remember is that the novels, comics, whatever, officially are not considered canon by the producers, so take whatever happens in them with a grain of salt.

And get ready for some fans to declare the new books to be canon just because they like the plots. I've already seen items saying they will be canon but I can't find any official word that they are. Someone should ask Mallozzi though I doubt he knows because he doesn't have anything to do with them. In my mind nothing that doesn't get filmed and shown on TV is canon. And yes I will stick with that no matter what. Over all just how many people will actually read the books. I saw every Star Trek episode/movie ever made but never read one of the books. So I doubt they will be considered canon by most fans. At the most any of the books are just a higher level of fan fiction.

[Anuna]

And get ready for some fans to declare the new books to be canon just because they like the plots. I've already seen items saying they will be canon but I can't find any official word that they are. Someone should ask Mallozzi though I doubt he knows because he doesn't have anything to do with them. In my mind nothing that doesn't get filmed and shown on TV is canon. And yes I will stick with that no matter what. Over all just how many people will actually read the books. I saw every Star Trek episode/movie ever made but never read one of the books. So I doubt they will be considered canon by most fans. At the most any of the books are just a higher level of fan fiction.

Um, what books? I'm willing to bet that certain parts of the fandom don't read books. Well, maybe Twilight./snark If someone can consider those books canon, then I can conisder SK's Restoration canon and nobody will stop me from doing so. What? It's in character, it works within canon and it's amazingly written. Dare say it's worse than those SGA books out there.

[Southern Red]

Um, what books? I'm willing to bet that certain parts of the fandom don't read books. Well, maybe Twilight./snark If someone can consider those books canon, then I can conisder SK's Restoration canon and nobody will stop me from doing so. What? It's in character, it works within canon and it's amazingly written. Dare say it's worse than those SGA books out there.

Restoration was amazing and I think I'll declare it canon. *waves wand*

Has everyone voted in this thread?

[Anuna]

Restoration was amazing and I think I'll declare it canon. *waves wand*

Has everyone voted in this thread?

Heeee, definitely. *snaps fingers and makes it canon* There!

Voted m'dear

[Eri13]

I like Metallica, especially their early music. I'm with SK the movie will never get made. I'll be honeymooning with Emily Deschanel before we see "Extinction" on the big screen.

Some OT'ness

Spoiler:

Just watched S2EP9 of Sanctuary. MS and the new girl had great banter about the Windy City. Props to TPTB for being accurate about the city. And MS was even cooler as Sox fan. Loved the "GO WHITE SOX" while he's got a gun at his head. Spoken like a true south sider.

HAH!

Hmm,

Spoiler:

I don't watch Sanctuary, but I may have to check that one out just for the giggles.

Spoiler:

That was a good eppy of Sanctuary. SK, you'd like Michael's role in it, it was great. And the first few lines he has with Magnus are priceless, as they're totally poking fun of the SG-1 connection. I think Shanks says something like--'wow, that's a new look for you' in reference to Magnus's dark hair.

And get ready for some fans to declare the new books to be canon just because they like the plots. I've already seen items saying they will be canon but I can't find any official word that they are. Someone should ask Mallozzi though I doubt he knows because he doesn't have anything to do with them. In my mind nothing that doesn't get filmed and shown on TV is canon. And yes I will stick with that no matter what. Over all just how many people will actually read the books. I saw every Star Trek episode/movie ever made but never read one of the books. So I doubt they will be considered canon by most fans. At the most any of the books are just a higher level of fan fiction.

Hmmm. I have a feeling unless they're completely involved, the producers won't really comment on the 'canonness' of anything else. I think back to Joss Whedon and all the talk of his additional season of Buffy-via-comic book. I can't think of anyone I knew who uses that in reference to Buffy who was a general fan. I don't know about the die-hards.

I'll pick up the books if they include Elizabeth. That's pretty much it. I mean, the obvious advantage to books is that Elizabeth CAN come back, and if I were TPTB I'd take advantage of that. I mean, even looking at that little thread/poll SR referenced, you can see that bringing her back would be smart.

then again, not killing her off would have been smarter, so who am I kidding?

Popped in to say 'hey ya!' Everyone continue to stay safe in the cold. I'm off to do more Christmas shopping/cleaning/baking *sighhhhhhhhhh*

Oh, and pkprd...

Spoiler:

I'm so sorry about your Dad. I lost my uncle last week to pneumonia. It was sudden and quick and very hard. His family is suffering so much right now--I'm sorry you've had to go through that.

[Southern Red]

Spoiler:

That was a good eppy of Sanctuary. SK, you'd like Michael's role in it, it was great. And the first few lines he has with Magnus are priceless, as they're totally poking fun of the SG-1 connection. I think Shanks says something like--'wow, that's a new look for you' in reference to Magnus's dark hair.

Hmmm. I have a feeling unless they're completely involved, the producers won't really comment on the 'canonness' of anything else. I think back to Joss Whedon and all the talk of his additional season of Buffy-via-comic book. I can't think of anyone I knew who uses that in reference to Buffy who was a general fan. I don't know about the die-hards.

I'll pick up the books if they include Elizabeth. That's pretty much it. I mean, the obvious advantage to books is that Elizabeth CAN come back, and if I were TPTB I'd take advantage of that. I mean, even looking at that little thread/poll SR referenced, you can see that bringing her back would be smart.

then again, not killing her off would have been smarter, so who am I kidding?

Popped in to say 'hey ya!' Everyone continue to stay safe in the cold. I'm off to do more Christmas shopping/cleaning/baking *sighhhhhhhhhh*

Oh, and pkprd...

Spoiler:

I'm so sorry about your Dad. I lost my uncle last week to pneumonia. It was sudden and quick and very hard. His family is suffering so much right now--I'm sorry you've had to go through that.

True about the books. I certainly won't buy any of them unless I know the plot is not going to make my eyes bleed. And I loved Buffy but didn't even know there were comic books. Fandom tends to think it's the be all and end all but that ain't so. Well, except for us of course.