Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[Olivia001]

Spoiler is question about Weir

Spoiler:

Whats all this stuff about them getting rid of Weir?
Why are they doing that?
I'm a little behind (okay very behind)
but what happans that shes leaving?!

[Blower'sGate]

Whats all this stuff about them getting rid of Weir?
Why are they doing that?
I'm a little behind (okay very behind)
but what happans that shes leaving?!

I don't know if it's necessary but just in case I might say you should put your reply under spoiler tags like this : [ spoilers ] text [ / spoilers ] without the spaces.

On Weir :

Spoiler:

No, she's not leaving. Torri Higginson has been reduced to recurring character in season 4. She'll be in 4 episodes in the first half of season 4. For more informations, you should check the Save Elizabeth Wer thread. She's not leaving, don't worry. For now we have what we could call good news, so don't panic.

[belanna30]

Olivia001, definitely watch Season 2. You'll love it. It has a number of awesome episodes (even some that aren't so shippy that are still phenomenal. .. .). You'll enjoy it immensely.

Also, do we know how many people are sending postcards for the "Save Elizabeth" Campaign? I signed the on-line petition, but I think I need to start getting some letters together as well.

Get this, my boss comes into work today and says "I've recently discovered Stargate. It's great." Immediately me and another girl offer up all of the episodes of SG-1 and Atlantis to catch him up. . .. Hahaha! One more addicted!

[Olivia001]

More about Weir

Spoiler:

But why on earth is she just a reacuring[sp?!] spot?

[Athenaktt]

Olivia001, definitely watch Season 2. You'll love it. It has a number of awesome episodes (even some that aren't so shippy that are still phenomenal. .. .). You'll enjoy it immensely.

Also, do we know how many people are sending postcards for the "Save Elizabeth" Campaign? I signed the on-line petition, but I think I need to start getting some letters together as well.

Get this, my boss comes into work today and says "I've recently discovered Stargate. It's great." Immediately me and another girl offer up all of the episodes of SG-1 and Atlantis to catch him up. . .. Hahaha! One more addicted!

Yay for converting people to SG!

And Welcome belanna30 and Olivia001! It's always good to see new people posting around here.

[SGLAB]

Does anyone know where I can find a fic that's a tag to Runner where John and Elzabeth are in bed and John suddenly tells ELizabeth that Teyla groped him or somthing like that? I could use some humorous fic.

Welcome to all the new people.

[Olivia001]

Does anyone know where I can find a fic that's a tag to Runner where John and Elzabeth are in bed and John suddenly tells ELizabeth that Teyla groped him or somthing like that? I could use some humorous fic.

Welcome to all the new people.

AHAHA I love how specific you were

[SGLAB]

AHAHA I love how specific you were

Last time I was looking for a fic, no one seemed to know what I was talking about. I figured I needed to get more specific this time.

[A.L.]

I've completed my first actiony John video. There's a hint of Sparky if you squint.

Warning: Massive spoilers for most of the back half of S3. I'll repost it after these have aired if you want to wait.

http://media.putfile.com/If-Youre-Going-Through-Hell

Tried to green you, my fellow MAC user but it wouldn't let me so, unofficial

GREEN!!

. Nice vid. I actually got to play around with the standard one that comes on the mac and I like it a lot but I still don't ahve the clips for it. A video capture device is on my wish list but I've got school and moving expenses so it may be a bit before that happens.

Thanks for sharing!

AL

[atlantis_babe34]

Hellooo sparkers!

Welcome to all teh Newbies!! glad to have you!

[SazZat]

Okay so I'm kind of new here.
I was a little.... warry about SGA at the beginning becuase I figured you couldnt get better then SG
Boy was I wrong
I just finished the first season so I really shouldnt be reading all this
(going to buy season two tonight!)
And I know this is going to sound Tres stupid but...
Whats sparky?
I guessed the Tomkat for Sheppard and Weir but I have no clue...

Welcome You'll love it here. Beware though, you will become addicted and will find it hard to leave

I think it's amazing how I was such an addict to SG1 but from word go on Atlantis that pretty much took over as main favourite. Funny how these things happen. My best friend watches Atlantis so maybe it's because I could talk to her about it got me more into it.

Bryan adams is the ultimate and ship singer

Lonely Nights - Bryan Adams

Spoiler:

Will you risk your reputation?
I don't know.
You just don't know what you're sayin'
Anymore.

You know beggers can't be chosers,
And that's fair.
When we win we may be losers,
I don't care, no no no.
Baby, I just can't stand another lonely night,
So come over and save me,
Save me from another lonely night.
I hear every word you're sayin'
They're all lies.
But with every breath you're takin'
You're thinkin' of ways to say good night.

annnnd

Back To You - Bryan Adams

Spoiler:

Ive been down - Ive been beat
Ive been so tired-that I could not speak
Ive been so lost that I could not see
I wanted things that were out of reach
Then I found you and you helped me through
And ya showed me what to do
And thats why Im comin back to you...

Like a star that guides a ship across the ocean
Thats how your love will take me home back to you
And if I wish upon that star - someday Ill be where you are
I know that day is coming soon - ya, Im coming back to you.

Youve been alone, but ya did not show it
Youve been in pain, but did not know it
Let me do what I needed to - you were there when I needed you
Mighta let you down, mighta messed you round
But ya never changed your point of view
And thats why Im comin back to you...

Im coming back to you
Im coming back to you
Im coming back to you
That day is coming soon

Im coming back to you

i have his anthology album

I love those two songs. Lonely Nights is so cute because you can hear it in his voice how young he is, bless.

I've been going through all my BA albums and these are a couple of other songs I consider Sparky:

Why Do You Have To Be So Hard To Love

Spoiler:

was it some man that didn't treat you right
left you reaching out for him in the middle of the night
is there some heartache that you can't out run
that makes you so afraid to get close to anyone

you're so easy to look at
you're so easy to hold
it's so easy to touch you
but so hard to let go
it's so easy to want you
that i can't get enough
tell me why do ya have to be
why do ya have to be so hard to love

is it some hurt from long ago
that makes it so hard to let your feelings show
is it the ghost of who you used to be
that makes you so afraid to bear your soul to me

you're so easy to look at
you're so easy to hold
it's so easy to touch you
but so hard to let go
it's so easy to want you
that i can't get enough
tell me why do ya have to be
why do ya have to be so hard to love

I love this song! Everything about it is just Sparky. Think of it from John's POV and it's perfect. Everything that is being questioned is so right for Elizabeth's story. Wonderful song. Wonderful for Sparky



Hearts On Fire

Spoiler:

Some other time
Some other place
We might not of bin here
Standin' face to face

I just wanna tell ya
Made up my mind
You know I can't help the way I feel inside

Oh this heart's on fire
Right from the start it's bin burnin' for you
Oh this heart's on fire
One thing honey - this heart's true

The streets are empty
The lights are down
Ain't nothin' movin'
This side of town

So come on over
I ain't hard to please
Oh baby - what you get ain't always what you need

Oh this heart's on fire
It's getting hotter now can't you see
Oh this heart's on fire
From now on babe it's gonna be you and me

Risin' to my feet I can feel the heat
It's tryin' to pull me under
Runnin' through the night I can make it right
Its comin' on like thunder

Some got it good some got it bad
But you're the best I ever had
I never worry you're so fine
From now on babe I'm gonna be by your side

I LOVE this song. A more upbeat one as well, rather than a ballad.



Star

Spoiler:

"What cha wanna be - when you grow up"
"What cha gonna do - when your time is up"
"What cha gonna say - when things go wrong"
"What cha wanna do - when you're on your own"

There's a road - long and winding
The lights are blindin' - but it gets there
Don't look back - don't give up

There's a silver linin' - it's out there somewhere
Everybody wants an answer - everybody needs a friend
We all need a shinin' star on which we can depend

So tonight we're gonna wish upon a star
We never wished upon before - (gotta find what you're looking for)

There'll be times - in your life
Ya when you' be dancin' n' **** - but you ain't gettin' it
But don't get disillusioned - no, don't expect too much

Cuz if what you have is all you can get
Just keep on tryin' - it just ain't happened yet
Everybody wants ta be winner - everybody has a dream
We all need a shinin' star when things ain't what they seem

N' so tonight we're gonna wish upon a star
We never wished upon before - (gotta get where your heading for)

Everybody wants some kindness - everybody needs a break
We all need a shinin' star when things get hard to take
N' so tonight we're gonna wish upon a star
We never wished upon before

This falls under the catagory of songs that have made me cry. Everyone needs a shining Star...John and Elizabeth are obviously each other's stars.



I Think About You

Spoiler:

I oughta be workin'
But I can't concentrate
I oughta be sleepin'
'Steada stayin' up late
When I oughta be doing all the things I should do
I think about you

I oughta be writin'
But I can't find the song
Just sittin' here driftin'
Driftin' along
There's only one thing that I wanna do
And that's think about you

I think about you - I can't get no rest
I think about you - there ain't no one else
It's all I can do - I can't help myself
Ya - I think about you

I could go cruisin'
But I've had enough
I could go drinkin'
But I can't stand the stuff
It just don't do me like it used to do
I'd rather think about you

and for all those with a love of things pr0ny

If Ya Wanna Be Bad - Ya Gotta Be Good

Spoiler:

she gotta nasty reputation and a talent for sin
she's the kinda trouble - i like to be in
i wanna be her lover - i wanna be her slave
she's the kinda woman makes me wanna misbehave
she said "i'll give ya what you want boy - but lets make it understood
if ya wanna be bad - ya gotta be good"

she's say's "there'll be no lyin' - no foolin' around
no seven day weekends - no nights on the town"
she said "that's the way i want it - that's the way it's gotta be
if yer lookin' for trouble - better get it from me
so get on your knees boy - and do what you should
if you wanna be bad you gotta be good"

I could have posted lyrics to practically everyone of his songs, but I managed to restrain myself

[Anuna]

Hello newcomers!! Stick around on this thread!

Olivia, season two is just awesome! And it's more shippy than season one that's for sure. In my oppinion, "Conversion" (here I go about that again) is one of the shippiest Sparky episodes. (right after TRW).

Now I have to rant a little bit! I have to work longer today... for some stupid reason... I'll need my Sparky fix when I get home... and that will be in, say, five or six hours!!! *is mad* God!!! Why me??!!! I could use a humorous or sweet and happy fic right now!! recomendations, pretty please???

And about our current shippy singer...

Bryan Adams - Heaven

Spoiler:

Oh - thinkin' about all our younger years
There was only you and me
We were young and wild and free

Now nothin' can take you away from me
We bin down that road before
But that's over now
You keep me comin' back for more

Baby you're all that I want
When you're lyin' here in my arms
I'm findin' it hard to believe
We're in heaven
And love is all that I need
And I found it there in your heart
It isn't too hard to see
We're in heaven

Oh - once in your life you find someone
Who will turn your world around
Bring you up when you're feelin' down
Ya - nothin' could change what you mean to me
Oh there's lots that I could say
But just hold me now
Cause our love will light the way

N' baby you're all that I want
When you're lyin' here in my arms
I'm findin' it hard to believe
We're in heaven
And love is all that I need
And I found it there in your heart
It isn't too hard to see
We're in heaven

I've been waitin' for so long
For something to arrive
For love to come along

Now our dreams are comin' true
Through the good times and the bad
Ya - I'll be standin' there by you

I sooo love that song!! Wish I had more time for making videos!

and this one too...

Bryan Adams - I finally found someone (hey this is from "When Harry met Sally"!!!!)

Spoiler:

I finally found someone
That knocks me off my feet
I finally found the one
That makes me feel complete It started over coffe
We strated out as friends
It's funny how from simple things
The best things begin

This time is different
And it's all because of you
It's better than it's ever been
'Cause we can talk it though
My favouite line was
"Can I call you sometime"
It's all you had to say
To take my breath away

This is it, oh I finally found someone
Someone to share my life
I finally found the one
To be with every night
'Cause whatever I do
It's just got to be you
My life has just begun
I finally found someone

Did I keep you waiting? I didn't mind
I apologise, baby that's fine
I would wait forever just to know you were mine

You know I love your hair (imagine Lizzie sayin that!!)
Are you sure it looks right?
I love what you wear
Isn't it too tight?
You're exceptional
I can't wait for the rest of my life

This is it, oh I finally found someone
Someone to share my life
I finally found the one
To be with every night
'Cause whatever I do
It's just got to be you
My life has just begun
I finally found someone
And whatever I do
It's just got to be you
My life has just begun
I finally found someone

[Vicky]

Okay so I'm kind of new here.
I was a little.... warry about SGA at the beginning becuase I figured you couldnt get better then SG
Boy was I wrong
I just finished the first season so I really shouldnt be reading all this
(going to buy season two tonight!)
And I know this is going to sound Tres stupid but...
Whats sparky?
I guessed the Tomkat for Sheppard and Weir but I have no clue...

Welcome! And Yeah, I agree with everyone else, watch season 2! It's just great!

Does anyone know where I can find a fic that's a tag to Runner where John and Elzabeth are in bed and John suddenly tells ELizabeth that Teyla groped him or somthing like that? I could use some humorous fic.

Welcome to all the new people.

I've read it, but I can't remember it. I think it's a quite old one. More than a year, it might have been written just after the ep aired.

[atlantis_babe34]

<snipped snip>
Why Do You Have To Be So Hard To Love

Spoiler:

was it some man that didn't treat you right
left you reaching out for him in the middle of the night
is there some heartache that you can't out run
that makes you so afraid to get close to anyone

you're so easy to look at
you're so easy to hold
it's so easy to touch you
but so hard to let go
it's so easy to want you
that i can't get enough
tell me why do ya have to be
why do ya have to be so hard to love

is it some hurt from long ago
that makes it so hard to let your feelings show
is it the ghost of who you used to be
that makes you so afraid to bear your soul to me

you're so easy to look at
you're so easy to hold
it's so easy to touch you
but so hard to let go
it's so easy to want you
that i can't get enough
tell me why do ya have to be
why do ya have to be so hard to love

I love this song! Everything about it is just Sparky. Think of it from John's POV and it's perfect. Everything that is being questioned is so right for Elizabeth's story. Wonderful song. Wonderful for Sparky



Hearts On Fire

Spoiler:

Some other time
Some other place
We might not of bin here
Standin' face to face

I just wanna tell ya
Made up my mind
You know I can't help the way I feel inside

Oh this heart's on fire
Right from the start it's bin burnin' for you
Oh this heart's on fire
One thing honey - this heart's true

The streets are empty
The lights are down
Ain't nothin' movin'
This side of town

So come on over
I ain't hard to please
Oh baby - what you get ain't always what you need

Oh this heart's on fire
It's getting hotter now can't you see
Oh this heart's on fire
From now on babe it's gonna be you and me

Risin' to my feet I can feel the heat
It's tryin' to pull me under
Runnin' through the night I can make it right
Its comin' on like thunder

Some got it good some got it bad
But you're the best I ever had
I never worry you're so fine
From now on babe I'm gonna be by your side

I LOVE this song. A more upbeat one as well, rather than a ballad.



Star

Spoiler:

"What cha wanna be - when you grow up"
"What cha gonna do - when your time is up"
"What cha gonna say - when things go wrong"
"What cha wanna do - when you're on your own"

There's a road - long and winding
The lights are blindin' - but it gets there
Don't look back - don't give up

There's a silver linin' - it's out there somewhere
Everybody wants an answer - everybody needs a friend
We all need a shinin' star on which we can depend

So tonight we're gonna wish upon a star
We never wished upon before - (gotta find what you're looking for)

There'll be times - in your life
Ya when you' be dancin' n' **** - but you ain't gettin' it
But don't get disillusioned - no, don't expect too much

Cuz if what you have is all you can get
Just keep on tryin' - it just ain't happened yet
Everybody wants ta be winner - everybody has a dream
We all need a shinin' star when things ain't what they seem

N' so tonight we're gonna wish upon a star
We never wished upon before - (gotta get where your heading for)

Everybody wants some kindness - everybody needs a break
We all need a shinin' star when things get hard to take
N' so tonight we're gonna wish upon a star
We never wished upon before

This falls under the catagory of songs that have made me cry. Everyone needs a shining Star...John and Elizabeth are obviously each other's stars.



I Think About You

Spoiler:

I oughta be workin'
But I can't concentrate
I oughta be sleepin'
'Steada stayin' up late
When I oughta be doing all the things I should do
I think about you

I oughta be writin'
But I can't find the song
Just sittin' here driftin'
Driftin' along
There's only one thing that I wanna do
And that's think about you

I think about you - I can't get no rest
I think about you - there ain't no one else
It's all I can do - I can't help myself
Ya - I think about you

I could go cruisin'
But I've had enough
I could go drinkin'
But I can't stand the stuff
It just don't do me like it used to do
I'd rather think about you

and for all those with a love of things pr0ny

If Ya Wanna Be Bad - Ya Gotta Be Good

Spoiler:

she gotta nasty reputation and a talent for sin
she's the kinda trouble - i like to be in
i wanna be her lover - i wanna be her slave
she's the kinda woman makes me wanna misbehave
she said "i'll give ya what you want boy - but lets make it understood
if ya wanna be bad - ya gotta be good"

she's say's "there'll be no lyin' - no foolin' around
no seven day weekends - no nights on the town"
she said "that's the way i want it - that's the way it's gotta be
if yer lookin' for trouble - better get it from me
so get on your knees boy - and do what you should
if you wanna be bad you gotta be good"

I could have posted lyrics to practically everyone of his songs, but I managed to restrain myself

<snip snip>
Bryan Adams - Heaven

Spoiler:

Oh - thinkin' about all our younger years
There was only you and me
We were young and wild and free

Now nothin' can take you away from me
We bin down that road before
But that's over now
You keep me comin' back for more

Baby you're all that I want
When you're lyin' here in my arms
I'm findin' it hard to believe
We're in heaven
And love is all that I need
And I found it there in your heart
It isn't too hard to see
We're in heaven

Oh - once in your life you find someone
Who will turn your world around
Bring you up when you're feelin' down
Ya - nothin' could change what you mean to me
Oh there's lots that I could say
But just hold me now
Cause our love will light the way

N' baby you're all that I want
When you're lyin' here in my arms
I'm findin' it hard to believe
We're in heaven
And love is all that I need
And I found it there in your heart
It isn't too hard to see
We're in heaven

I've been waitin' for so long
For something to arrive
For love to come along

Now our dreams are comin' true
Through the good times and the bad
Ya - I'll be standin' there by you

I sooo love that song!! Wish I had more time for making videos!

and this one too...

Bryan Adams - I finally found someone (hey this is from "When Harry met Sally"!!!!)

Spoiler:

I finally found someone
That knocks me off my feet
I finally found the one
That makes me feel complete It started over coffe
We strated out as friends
It's funny how from simple things
The best things begin

This time is different
And it's all because of you
It's better than it's ever been
'Cause we can talk it though
My favouite line was
"Can I call you sometime"
It's all you had to say
To take my breath away

This is it, oh I finally found someone
Someone to share my life
I finally found the one
To be with every night
'Cause whatever I do
It's just got to be you
My life has just begun
I finally found someone

Did I keep you waiting? I didn't mind
I apologise, baby that's fine
I would wait forever just to know you were mine

You know I love your hair (imagine Lizzie sayin that!!)
Are you sure it looks right?
I love what you wear
Isn't it too tight?
You're exceptional
I can't wait for the rest of my life

This is it, oh I finally found someone
Someone to share my life
I finally found the one
To be with every night
'Cause whatever I do
It's just got to be you
My life has just begun
I finally found someone
And whatever I do
It's just got to be you
My life has just begun
I finally found someone

you realise this could go on for ages lol

here are some more

Can't Stop This Thing We've Started - Bryan Adams

Spoiler:

You might stop a hurricane
Might even stop the drivin rain
You might have a dozen other guys
But if you wanna stop me baby - dont even try
Im goin one way - your way
Its such a strong way - lets make it our way

Cant stop this thing we started
You gotta know its right
Cant stop this course weve plotted
This thing called love we got it
No place for the brokenhearted
Cant stop this thing we started - no way
Im goin your way!
You might stop the world spinnin round
Might even walk on holy ground
I aint superman and I cant fly
But if you wanna stop me baby - dont even try
Im goin one way - your way
Its such a strong way - lets make it our way

Cant stop this thing we started
You gotta know its right
Cant stop this course weve plotted
This thing called love we got it
No place for the brokenhearted
Cant stop this thing we started - no way
Im goin your way!

Oh - why take it slow
I gotta know
Nothing can stop this thing that we got

One Night Love Affair - Bryan Adams for some sparky p0rn

Spoiler:

Youre the silent type
And you caught my eye
But I never thought that Id be touchin you
How was I to know
Id let my feelins go
And that Id be yours before the night was through

One night love affair
Tryin to make like we dont care
We were both reachin out for somethin

One night love affair
Pretendin it aint there
Oh - and now were left with nothin

When the mornin breaks
We go our separate ways
If the night was made for love it aint for keeps

But I lose control
As I watch you go
All my senses say Im in this much too deep
Now youre outa reach

One night love affair
Tryin to make like we dont care
We were both reachin out for somethin

One night love affair
Pretendin we dont care
Oh - and now were left with nothin

Solo

One night love affair
Trying to make like we dont care
We were both reachin out for somethin

One night love affair
Sometimes life aint fair
Oh - and not were left with nothin

Your Still Beautiful to Me - Bryan Adams For some fluff!

Spoiler:

Turn out the lights and close the door
Put your head on the pillow let me keep ya warm
I wanna run my hands across your face
Ya lyin beside ya still the perfect place
Were still goin strong
So glad that you came along

Ya babe in every way
Youre still beautiful to me
I just - have ta say -
Youre still beautiful to me n
(its bin a long time baby)

Lay back baby - close your eyes
Let me do everything your heart desires
When I think of the years makin love to you
There still aint nothin Id rather do
Theres somethin I cant deny
You sure know how ta move this guy

Ya babe in every way -
Youre still beautiful to me
I just - have ta say -
Youre still beautiful to me - cant ya see

Still feels good - still runs deep
When you get close babe - I still get weak
Cuz in these arms - is where you belong
Were still goin strong - so glad that you came along
Hey babe youre still number one

Oh cant ya see - youre still beautiful to me
Youll always be so beautiful to me
Ya babe in every way - youre still beautiful to me

[Anjirika]

Yup that's the one
I also love that scene. Great little scene

^_^ It is a great scene!

For those of you who have seen Tristan + Isolde, there's the OT by Gaving Degraw that I thought could match with sparky ( at least to me ).

Gavin Degraw We Belong Together ( lyrics under spoiler tags )

Spoiler:

We belong together
Like the open seas and shores
Wedded by the planet force
We've all been spoken for

The hammer may strike, me dead on the ground
A nail to my hand, a cross on his crown
We're done if we're undone
Finished if we are incomplete
As one we are everything
We are everything we need

We belong together
Like the open seas and shores
Wedded by the planet force
We've all been spoken for

What good is a life, with no one to share
The light of the moon, the honor of a swear
We can try to live the way of which you speak
Taste the milk of your mother earth's love
[ these lyrics found on
Spread the word of consciousness you see
We are everything we need

We belong together
Like the open seas and shores
Wedded by the planet force
We've all been spoken for

All this indecision
All this independent strength
Still, we've got our hearts on save
We've got our hearts on save

Someday when you're lonely
Sometime after all this bliss
Somewhere lost in emptiness
I hope you find this gift...
I hope you find this gift...
I hope you find this gift.

OMG... SUCH a great song! Totally sparky worthy too... ^_^

And a big huge WELCOME to our new members! Welcome to our Sparky haven!