Nitpicking, realism, and the law of non-contradiction

[kryon22]

oh and they do have ancient technology so they could of just attached the life signs detector to see if there were any life signs. Also, I'd much rather have em just say "oh theres nobody there and heres a pic" then them actually go explore and reach the same conclusion wasting precious air time!

Based on what was already indicated IN the episode, the residual radiation that the plants absorb and retain interfere with the emissions that the LSD tracks making it impossible to use the LSD for its appropriate function.

[Ouroboros]

I was personally tickled by the way the plants were said to store enough radiation to make the Ancient sensors on the PJ useless. This despite the fact that obviously the levels of radiation in the plants weren't high enough to even be worthy of mention when it came to hurting people.

So apparently if you're a Wraith and want to jam an Ancient sensor that's trying to lock onto you just turn on the microwave.

Ancient gunner: Don't worry sir as soon as his bean burrito's done cooking we own him.

[Shep'sSocks]

Well unless they're trying to fool us, the planet was definitely not hot. When Mckay took off the hood of the rubber suit, we could see his breath.

UV exposure, as any Australian schoolchild from Melbourne of the four seasons in one day weather could tell you, doesn't depend on heat.

[Livi2Jack]

I agree with you and add this point to the realism discussion:

Doing surgery on somebody's back with something up against the spinal cord, without anesthetic?

ANYBODY and I mean ANYBODY who has ever had surgery can tell you that old Ronan would have been screaming and jerking as he was cut and then he would have passed out from the pain.

And what about Stitches or Staples? Packing the wound?

Trust someone who has had MAJOR surgery and Minor Surgery with the scars to prove it....

That scene could never have happened.

[Shep'sSocks]

Let me just fanwank that one for you and say that Ronan's big and tough enough to take it... Really, really, tough.

[Qasim]

and he did pass out

[Easter Lily]

UV exposure, as any Australian schoolchild from Melbourne of the four seasons in one day weather could tell you, doesn't depend on heat.

A cloudy day on the Gold Coast doesn't mean no UV exposure either...

[prion]

I agree with you and add this point to the realism discussion:

Doing surgery on somebody's back with something up against the spinal cord, without anesthetic?

ANYBODY and I mean ANYBODY who has ever had surgery can tell you that old Ronan would have been screaming and jerking as he was cut and then he would have passed out from the pain.

And what about Stitches or Staples? Packing the wound?

Trust someone who has had MAJOR surgery and Minor Surgery with the scars to prove it....

That scene could never have happened.

Stitches? WE don't need no stinking stictches!

On TV people regularly get shot, stabbed, etc. etc. and just keep on going. However, if you are in a battlefield situation, you can keep going on with adrenaline and not notice you've been shot, but having someone slice open your back AND stick in a retractor (which would HURT!); I'd be handing over my bank account numbers if I hadn't passed out at that point. If you're not expecting the injury, you may not feel it (recalling a nasty accident with a box cutter) but well, I guess the fact that Dex could have surgery without passing out, etc. just shows he's made of strong stuff (aka TV he-man stuff).

I'd like to see Beckett try that on McKay. Ha! They'd be peeling the scientist off the CEILING.

[Livi2Jack]

Let me just fanwank that one for you and say that Ronan's big and tough enough to take it... Really, really, tough.

Truly, you have never been opened up. No one and I mean no one could ever have endured that kind of surgery without the screams being heard across the galaxy. Pass out...Becket must have shot him up with something.

[MarshAngel]

UV exposure, as any Australian schoolchild from Melbourne of the four seasons in one day weather could tell you, doesn't depend on heat.

never thought it did. I was just filling in the details in regards to the questions asked.

[Shep'sSocks]

Truly, you have never been opened up. No one and I mean no one could ever have endured that kind of surgery without the screams being heard across the galaxy. Pass out...Becket must have shot him up with something.

Er, but when fanwanking one doesn't need to refer to real situations for explanations.

[Tok'Ra Hostess]

Truly, you have never been opened up. No one and I mean no one could ever have endured that kind of surgery without the screams being heard across the galaxy. Pass out...Becket must have shot him up with something.

In keeping with this thread idea that some impossibilities are allowed to happen in a series' universe - if they are consistent within that universe - I'd point out that Dex also didn't cry out when the Wraith inserted the tracking device into his back.

I think it is quite likely that the Wraith, who have made a practice of using humans for sport, must have done more than just stick a tracker in him. They must have sooped up Dex's metabolism and stuff to make him more durable out in the field - more of a challenge. I mean if you're gonna cheat by sticking a tracker in him, even things out by giving him a physical advantage; it's only sporting....

Ford didn't go down or show pain after Rodney and Shep shot him, either.

[Qasim]

In keeping with this thread idea that some impossibilities are allowed to happen in a series' universe - if they are consistent within that universe - I'd point out that Dex also didn't cry out when the Wraith inserted the tracking device into his back.

Maybe the enzyme acts as an anaesthetic

[prion]

Truly, you have never been opened up. No one and I mean no one could ever have endured that kind of surgery without the screams being heard across the galaxy. Pass out...Becket must have shot him up with something.

Well...... don't think we're going to see a focus group on this any time soon. ..."Oh by the way, in this group, we're going to cut open a two-inch incision on you, stick in a set of retractors, AND remove something from. All without the benefit of any kind of painkiller!"

Uh huh, yup...

Personally, I think you'd need to ask a surgeon (preferably military surgeon) if such an operation can be done without the patient screeching and jumping 10 feet. Some people do have a high tolerance for pain but in this case, I think Shep's expression of "eeuuu" about summed it up.

[Shep'sSocks]

Have to say that 'eeuuu' look from Shep was priceless.