Daedalus

[Ganjaman]

What kind of alien tech is intersting. I think a lot of tech they have encounetered they don't understand enough to deploy e.g. They brought earth rail guns to atlantis rather than alien type energy weapons. Also Prometheus had like missiles, a very earth tech. I think they have the asgard designed (Asgard designed one for them but I doubt same level as actual Asgard one) reactor and shields and transporter plus a ring transporter. Many techs encountered they will kow enough science to understand it in the basics and how to operate it but beyond that they do not know. I belive modern Asgard tech is slowly approaching ancient level but is not there yet, giving anubis as an example.

An example of why our hyperdrive is not as good as true asgard one is the second time we visited cimmeria, we spoke to thor in his home galaxy then very fast he was in ours, for us to get to pegasus is taking several days and that is with the ZPM booster.

[SGTLopez]

But I disagree... aToo use your analogy, I agree that an AA battery would not be enough to start a car... but consider the flipside. Suppose that you were to power the car with nuclear technology or a minature nuclear reactor... it doesn't mean that the car would go any faster! And a nuclear sub is using a different type of technology than a diesel sub i.e. fusion technology rather than combustible technology.

Its different technology that leads to advances rather than a more abundant power source... thats my point....

Oh but you're comparing the power source that starts the car to the power source that runs it once it's started.

A bigger battery won't mean anything to a Gasoline powered car, but if it were an electric car, you could boost the amount of electricity running through to the point that the motors could no longer handle the consumption and fry. This would boost the output of the electric motors at the cost of engine longevity.

Just cause of that, I say that the Promie cannot ferry troops and supplies to and from Earth because it'll eventually fry the engines.

[AtlantisForever]

do we get to keep the Daedalus? what do u think?
i think it would be cool to have at least one ship capable of hyperspace travel in pegasus.
when i think about it there are so many cool things u can do with an asgard transporter like go over to the genii and transport their reactor to an ocean or like transport their stargate on board and haul it back to atlantis lol
but seriously now compared to the rest of the humans in the pegasus galaxy i don't see how the atlantis expedition has any advantage against the wraith other than controling atlantis which proves to be mainly defensive.
now the daedalus may not be much of a threat to the wraith but at least its impressive and pretty and it can be useful in some situations like that time that scout dart came to atlantis three jumpers could barely overtake it but i bet it's a rather easy target for the daedalus. or if the genii try to take over atlantis again u can just transport them to the brig from orbit.

Atlantis is a ship well a CityShip it would be cool if there was acouple more like Motherships some1 said that they might be asgaurd in atlantis they could bring some of there battle cruiser's

[Seastallion]

As I understand it, the Dadealus (and other Tau'ri Battlecruisers) uses the Naquadriah reactor ONLY for the hyperdrive engines. It also has several Naquadah reactors to provide power for all the other systems. So the Tau'ri Battlecruisers use multiple power sources, not just one or two.

With the Naquadriah reactor, and Asgard designed hyperdrives, the Tau'ri Battlecruiser can reach Pegasus within about a month. However, since Naquadriah is so unstable they can only travel in hyperspace for limited periods of time. Then they have to leave hyperspace, and allow the power buffers time to bleed their excess energy, before they can return to hyperspace and continue their journey.

With the ZPM being used to power the hyperdrive engines, there is more power to the engines, giving them more speed and also they don't have to stop periodically to allow the buffers to drain, because they aren't using the Naquadriah reactor to fly. Just the ZPM. The Shields, would be much stronger, because shield strength is directionally proportional to how much energy they have to absorb from enemy weapons fire. The ZPM has far more power than virtually any enemy could throw at them, thus making the Dadealus nearly invincible. It would also give the Dadealus very impressive recharge rate for its energy based weapons.

However, that being said... It is the Dadealus mission to get the ZPM to Atlantis to power the shields. Once the ZPM is transported to Atlantis, the Dadealus would have rely on its own Naquadah generators to provide power for its shields and weapons, thus making the ship more vulnerable.

Dadealus, COULD stay after the battle, assuming it isn't destroyed. On the other hand, it could return to Earth as well, with plans to return later. They could just use the Naquadriah generator for a longer journey home, but they wouldn't be stuck in Pegasus. However, that could also be dangerous... because at present the Wraith don't know where our galaxy is. If the Dadealus were followed through Hyperspace... well, it could be very bad.

So... we'll just have to see how the show plays itself out...

[aAnubiSs]

The Naquadria-drive is long gone.

[Seastallion]

The Naquadria-drive is long gone.

Really? Where did you get that info from? That one component that blew up over that planet was destroyed, but it was later replaced. In the episode "grace" they still had to make periodic stops to allow the buffer to bleed off the excess energy. Unless, you have something more substantive than the simple claim, I'm not sure your right.

On the other hand, you might be right, and we simply haven't heard about it yet. I don't know. However, I'm inclined to think your wrong on this one.

[aAnubiSs]

Grace hyperdrive was an al'kesh hyperdrive.

[Seastallion]

Grace hyperdrive was an al'kesh hyperdrive.

There may have been some Al'Kesh component being used... but they still wouldn't have replaced the entire hyperdrive. They were on the way home, after a breakdown. I can only imagine the Al'Kesh component was simply being used until they could fashion a more suitable replacement. I'll have to go back and watch the eps., but I'm still fairly certain I'm right.

The Naquadriah powersource, wasn't a hyperdrive, thus there would be no need to replace the hyperdrive. Perhaps they were simply using an Al'Kesh powersource for the Prometheus engines, not a new hyperdrive. Even if what your saying is so, however, that doesn't explain the Dadealus. They won't have that many Al'Kesh to get scrap from. The Naquadriah powersource is suffiecient, they just had to do a better job with the buffer, which is what they had to replace. (see "Memento") It (the buffer) was like a lightbulb, but the hyperdrive itself still worked. They just needed a new 'lightbulb'.

[aAnubiSs]

Naquadria only powered the hyperdrive. And in Grace the prometheus used a fully functional Al'kesh hyperdrive and nothing else.

both the Prometheus and Daedalus has Asgard hyperdrives now.

[Seastallion]

Naquadria only powered the hyperdrive. And in Grace the prometheus used a fully functional Al'kesh hyperdrive and nothing else.

both the Prometheus and Daedalus has Asgard hyperdrives now.

I KNOW that Naquadriah only powered the hyperdrive. That is precisely what I said in my earlier post. I'm going to watch Grace again, but I don't think it was an Al'Kesh hyperdrive. I think they used a component from an Al'Kesh to replace the buffer... not the hyperdrive.

As to the Prommie, and Dadealus having Asgard Hyperdrives... that is true... but that doesn't change that they're probably still using Naquadriah to power those engines. Unless, the Asgard have taught them how to generate more power from Naquadah, which I don't think they did. If they had, they'd have had something better than the Naquadah Mark II generator.

[aAnubiSs]

What I meant is that the Nr-reactor is inbedded in the hyperdrive.

AFAIK the Goa'uld use no buffer. We only needed the buffer due to the instability of Nr.

I doubt we use Nr in the Asgard hyperdrives. They probably use a large Nq-reactor.

[Heaven]

in Nemesis thor says the baliskner is powered by 4 neutrino ion generators
its possible the asgard hyperdrive on the D' is powered by these types of generators

[Seastallion]

in Nemesis thor says the baliskner is powered by 4 neutrino ion generators
its possible the asgard hyperdrive on the D' is powered by these types of generators

mmm... very doubtful. The Asgard have been very generous with their tech, because the Tau'ri have become very important allies to them. We've saved them on several occaisons, and it is likely they feel that we are the 'next generation' of defenders of humankind. They themselves have become much weakened, and one may safely suspect that they feel some sense of duty to humanity. That is probably why they established the Protected Planets Treaty in the first place. It isn't entirely improbable, that the Ancients had once done something similiar for them. As the children of the Ancients, humanity is their heir. The Tau'ri, in particular have traits that the Asgard admire. The spirit of adventure, and daring, which were also highly valued among the Norse peoples. Earth Humans, are perhaps the most advanced humans that share Asgard Ideals, which they themselves passed on to us in some regard, by influencing the Norse tribes. In that respect, humanity (the Tau'ri in particular) are also the heir's of the Asgard spirit. All of which, make the Tau'ri the most qualified to be the new defenders.

[Jarnin]

in Nemesis thor says the baliskner is powered by 4 neutrino ion generators
its possible the asgard hyperdrive on the D' is powered by these types of generators

Yeah, technobabble stinks.

A neutrino is a neutral particle that has very little mass.

An Ion is an electrically charged particle.

How they figured out how to charge a neutrino is beyond me, since it's not possible according to physics.

[aAnubiSs]

SPECULATION:

I guess Neutrino-Ion Generators could be compared to a Neutron star.

First the Asgard pump a room full of Ions. Then they introduce electrons and a very high pressure. Under high pressure protons and electrons merge and create a neutron and neutrino.
So perhaps Asgard reactors first merge protons and electrons and then the neutrinos are either absorbed by some material/field or the neutrinos themselves merge or interact with other particles and start another chain reaction.

The neutrons that are left might interact with Naquadah or something just like neutrons interact with Uranium during Fission. Or they are used for another unknown reaction.

The Asgard might run the plasma in a Fusion reactor before merging the protons and electrons for a little more energy. This could be compared to a super nova with a hard shell, in which case the dying star bleeds or insane amounts of energy in the form of neutrinos..