Daedalus

[knowsfords]

I wonder if the zpm is hooked into the entire ship and not just the hyperspace generator... if thats the case then the Daedalus shields could hold up for a while

[The Maneuver]

If the Daedalus returns to Earth, it will either need the ZPM, or escort from an Asgard ship to make the journey realistic, otherwise it could take months or even years.
So my guess is the ZPM will stay, because Atlantis is under more threat of attack than Earth, and if the ZPM stays, the Daedalus probably will too, unless

Spoiler:

the Asgard team members in S2 arrive in an Asgard ship.

[Ganjaman]

it wouldn't take months or years. In prometheus unbound they planned to take the prometheus to atlantis and that wasn't powered by a ZPM. I believe without it, the journey takes a month and with it it takes four days.

[Wass]

it wouldn't take months or years. In prometheus unbound they planned to take the prometheus to atlantis and that wasn't powered by a ZPM. I believe without it, the journey takes a month and with it it takes four days.

It’s taking four days because they are using ZPM to power the ship.

[Master_Bray'Paul]

My guess about it:

Daed shows up. Weapons are ineffective against the Wraith ships. Shep Mage-Bombs the one, and gets beamed out of his PJ by the Daed crew. Daed starts to take a beating from ship #2. Start mass transportation of the crew and supplies to Atlantis + ZPM. Point ship at Wraith. Tie a brink to the gas pedal and get the hell out of there.

i allso think daedlus will transport all his people to atlantis or the main land and than ram into the hive ship it's to soon for stargate atlantis to have a ship. i think in the 4th 5th or 6th season atlantis will have a ancient battle cruiser or something and in the 2th or 3th season a ancient fighter.

[Rogue5]

It’s taking four days because they are using ZPM to power the ship.

See... this is the thing I don't get/understand. My understanding of the ZPM is that its simply a power source. All that means (IMHO) is that there's a long lasting source of energy to power any existing devices. I don't think it means that it can increase the efficiency of any existing technology (both weapons and defensive technologies like shields). What I mean by that is I don't think weapons will simply become more powerful just simply because you plug a ZPM to it, or that somehow shields suddenly are able to defend against new things that they couldn't before... or that the Daedalus will be able to travel through hyperspace faster simply because there's a more abundant energy source. Those things require new technologies. For example in Lost City, (spoilers) O'Neill upgraded the technology on the transport ship so that they could get to and back from Proclarush quicker. It didn't mean that if you simply plugged a ZPM that they would have gotten to and from that planet quicker.

I do admit that for example with shields, that they would probably last longer against any attack since an ample power source might mean that they wouldn't give out as easily. The only way that the Daedalus could get to the Pegasus galaxy that quickly is if they somehow had say... .Asgard ion engines installed?

So when the Daedalus arrives there, I don't see how it could stand up to the wraith hive ships, particularly given the beating that the Prometheus took in Prometheus Unbound from simple death gliders....

Anyway... maybe someone can correct me if I'm totally mistaken...

[Iguana775]

See... this is the thing I don't get/understand. My understanding of the ZPM is that its simply a power source. All that means (IMHO) is that there's a long lasting source of energy to power any existing devices. I don't think it means that it can increase the efficiency of any existing technology (both weapons and defensive technologies like shields). What I mean by that is I don't think weapons will simply become more powerful just simply because you plug a ZPM to it, or that somehow shields suddenly are able to defend against new things that they couldn't before... or that the Daedalus will be able to travel through hyperspace faster simply because there's a more abundant energy source. Those things require new technologies. For example in Lost City, (spoilers) O'Neill upgraded the technology on the transport ship so that they could get to and back from Proclarush quicker. It didn't mean that if you simply plugged a ZPM that they would have gotten to and from that planet quicker.

I do admit that for example with shields, that they would probably last longer against any attack since an ample power source might mean that they wouldn't give out as easily. The only way that the Daedalus could get to the Pegasus galaxy that quickly is if they somehow had say... .Asgard ion engines installed?

So when the Daedalus arrives there, I don't see how it could stand up to the wraith hive ships, particularly given the beating that the Prometheus took in Prometheus Unbound from simple death gliders....

Anyway... maybe someone can correct me if I'm totally mistaken...

it's about the size and intensity of the power. you wouldnt use a AA batter to start a car. you need a big ol battery. bigger battery, more power. same principle here.

or like using a desiel engine on a sub vs. a nuclear. more power and faster sub.

[aAnubiSs]

Rogue5 your reasoning is flawed since we're dealing with alien technolgoy. Human technology wouldn't benefit from more power, since the cirquits would blow and more. However crystal technology doesn't need such stuff.

An Asgard hyperdrive is obviously faster then the one on the BC-303s simply because the Asgard have better reactors. The Asgard are smart enough to design an engine that can be used with different power levels. That way they don't have to design new engines everytime they upgrade their reactors.

Shields are the same. You'd need to match the power your enemies weapons are outputting. Having a larger reactor would give you the ability to put more juice into the shields and therefore be able to deflect more energy.

Weaponary has their limitations though. Giving energy weapons more power would give you a higher velocity, more compact plasma and faster recharge, however there are limitations on how much plasma can be packed in an area.

That's atleast what I think.

[Rogue5]

it's about the size and intensity of the power. you wouldnt use a AA batter to start a car. you need a big ol battery. bigger battery, more power. same principle here.

or like using a desiel engine on a sub vs. a nuclear. more power and faster sub.

But I disagree... a Naquadah generator seems to be sufficient to power the Prometheus and I presume the Daedalus too so there's enough power within a Naquadah generator to be able to power those ships. Too use your analogy, I agree that an AA battery would not be enough to start a car... but consider the flipside. Suppose that you were to power the car with nuclear technology or a minature nuclear reactor... it doesn't mean that the car would go any faster! And a nuclear sub is using a different type of technology than a diesel sub i.e. fusion technology rather than combustible technology.

Its different technology that leads to advances rather than a more abundant power source... thats my point....

[Ganjaman]

in the case of hyperspace windows it does matter. Prometheus did not use a naquadah generator because human technology was not advanced enough to truly use it. They used a naquadriah generator which is more unstable but can provide more energy in a certain amount of time but that energy limits them to a certain speed. The energy fropm the ZPM boost the energy output of the engines to make them travel faster. Using your car analogy using a higher octane fuel improves performance and going at a higher speed uses up more fuel than going along at a slower speed (terminal drag force). They could push the naquadriah reactor further but that would overheat the reactor, blow the engine so having a stable source from a ZPM means they can up the energy safely and stably.

[SG-4MarineLeader]

Well the fact that the Prometheus and now the Deadalus both have Asgard designed or modified hyperdrive engines would mean it probably wouldn't take too long to get to Atlantis from Earth, and vice versa. Also, in "Prometheus Unbound" they may not have known the exact location that they were going to. Now they do. Also, when the Gliders attacked the Prometheus, it was setting on the ground, partially shut down, and the only people on board were Valla, who was in the brig, and Daniel, who was outside. No one was inside watching the scanners or manning the weapons. If the ship had been fully manned, it would have been ready to fight.

[michael]

they already have ancient fighters: the puddle-jumpers.

[col_oatmeal]

Mabye Sheppard will activate an ancient tech and beam himself away on accident and the plan will go off right. Thenthe D will only have to fight 1 hive ship.

[col_oatmeal]

What I want to know is Ancient technology as good as old Asgard?, modern Asgard?

Is the D. as good as Asgard technology?

[randy]

Do you think when they meant that they intergrated more sophisticated alien technology into the Daedalus that they could of used the Kull warrior's energy absorption technology as a shield for the Deadalus? Well, I don't think they would considering if Earth had a dispute with the allies like the Jaffa and the Tokra who already know the technology and know how to counteract, they probably wouldn't. I just answered my own question.