Star Trek: Discovery (Speculation/Discussion/Spoilers)

[BAZZ]

The show does not sound fun, not at all.
Hopefully the characters and dialogue will be good, otherwise, I'll stop watching just like SG:U.

So both the next Stargate and Star Trek series are prequils. Makes me sad.

It appears hollywood is using 'dark' and 'drama' as a crutch for creative thinking... hell, for any thinking really.

[Xaeden]

I suppose just treating them like rhino horns or dear antlers would just be to much common sense. Evolutions takes thousands of years at a minimum, no way is the Klingon space empire that old.

Maybe prewarp Klingons were taken from their homeworld by a malevolent band of serpentine aliens and seeded on various worlds to serve as slaves, only to be liberated thousands of years later by the burgeoning Klingon Empire.

[aretood2]

Maybe prewarp Klingons were taken from their homeworld by a malevolent band of serpentine aliens and seeded on various worlds to serve as slaves, only to be liberated thousands of years later by the burgeoning Klingon Empire.

I actually like this idea...

[P-90_177]

Not out of the question either. I think it is canon that the Klingons fought and defeated and ancient Empire before they rose up. Think they were called the Hur'q.

[jelgate]

Actually the Hurq plundered the Klingons and fled to the Gamma Quadrant. The Klingons never defeated them as we know.

[DigiFluid]

Right, it was the gods who the Klingons slayed according to their myths.

[mad_gater]

Actually the Hurq plundered the Klingons and fled to the Gamma Quadrant. The Klingons never defeated them as we know.

well as the term "Hur'q" was a Klingon term meaning "outsider"...makes you wonder if these "outsiders" were a then fledgling Dominion

[aretood2]

Actually the Hurq plundered the Klingons and fled to the Gamma Quadrant. The Klingons never defeated them as we know.

Gamma Quadrant you say?

well as the term "Hur'q" was a Klingon term meaning "outsider"...makes you wonder if these "outsiders" were a then fledgling Dominion

I doubt it. They could have encountered them, and been defeated by them. I think Klingons would have recognized the "outsiders".

[mad_gater]

Gamma Quadrant you say?



I doubt it. They could have encountered them, and been defeated by them. I think Klingons would have recognized the "outsiders".

yeah but if this were a fledgling Dominion...I think the Hur'q invasion and plundering took place around the 14th century...in 10 centuries I would think what they looked like would've passed from memory

evidence for these outsiders being a small fledgling Dominion could be borne out by the fact that the founders may have just created some Jem'Hadar and sent them out.....they encounter the wormhole and encounter the Klingon homeworld and plunder it...the Klingons are able to rebel and throw them off the planet but not before they've plundered everything of value...for the greater glory of the Dominion of course...because during what was supposed ot be first contact the Jem'Hadar are already aware of the Klingons as the one guard says he wishes he could fight one as they were reported to be fierce warriors......how would they have any knowledge at all of the Klingons if this was their first contact with species from the Alpha Quadrant?

[Annoyed]

yeah but if this were a fledgling Dominion...I think the Hur'q invasion and plundering took place around the 14th century...in 10 centuries I would think what they looked like would've passed from memory

Any spacefaring race would have had the ability to have records, electronic or otherwise from 1000 years back.

[aretood2]

yeah but if this were a fledgling Dominion...I think the Hur'q invasion and plundering took place around the 14th century...in 10 centuries I would think what they looked like would've passed from memory

evidence for these outsiders being a small fledgling Dominion could be borne out by the fact that the founders may have just created some Jem'Hadar and sent them out.....they encounter the wormhole and encounter the Klingon homeworld and plunder it...the Klingons are able to rebel and throw them off the planet but not before they've plundered everything of value...for the greater glory of the Dominion of course...because during what was supposed ot be first contact the Jem'Hadar are already aware of the Klingons as the one guard says he wishes he could fight one as they were reported to be fierce warriors......how would they have any knowledge at all of the Klingons if this was their first contact with species from the Alpha Quadrant?

If I remember correctly, the Dominion was monitoring and observing Alpha Quadrant forays into the Gamma Quadrant for some time before first contact.

Any spacefaring race would have had the ability to have records, electronic or otherwise from 1000 years back.

Yeah, but records can be corrupted and lost even in electronic form. Time takes no prisoners. In this, MG has a good point.

[DigiFluid]

There was a panel on Discovery's production design at FanExpo Toronto yesterday. Some pretty interesting stuff in there, like how even at a design/control level, they already see it as part of their work to create a transition toward what's seen in TOS.

[mad_gater]

Any spacefaring race would have had the ability to have records, electronic or otherwise from 1000 years back.

Klingons were pre-warp around that time....and probably got warp drive from plundering any tech the "outsiders" left behind

[planet_tv]

Discovery's Theme Takes Cue From The Past

There's a poll at the end of the TV Guide Article about the theme. It just ask which theme you prefer the TOS theme or Discovery's: http://www.tvguide.com/news/star-trek-discovery-theme/

[Annoyed]

I'd prefer the original theme.