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[the Fifth Race]

A good example of differences between DS9 and ENT, was the recently discussed great DS9 episode Trials and Tribble-ations and the final episode of ENT These are the Voyages.... Both retro style episodes, and even with ENT episode being 10 years newer you could see better production values from the DS9 episode, not to mention better acting and writing.

Great point brother Base!. I too, just watched the final episode of ENT These are the Voyagers... the other night on cable TV and production value and special effects were crappy in comparison of anything on DS9 after season IV. The better acting and writing is a given when you compare DS9 or any other Trek series to ENT.

[the Fifth Race]

(Episode 7 & 8) of DS9 season V
Let He Who Is Without Sin...
Worf's relationship with Dax hits a rough spot, and he plans to discuss his feelings during their vacation on Risa. But things go from bad to worse when they — along with Bashir, Quark, and Leeta — arrive on the beautiful, climate controlled "Pleasure Planet." Worf learns that the Temtibi Lagoon's "social director," Arandis, is the former lover of Curzon Dax. Pascal Fullerton — Chairman of the New Essentialists Movement, a group bent on "restoring the moral and cultural traditions of the Federation" — approaches Worf. Fullerton's goal is to shut down Risa.
Worf immerses himself in New Essentialist literature and attends the group's rally. Fullerton makes a speech warning that Risa's focus on pleasure is just one example of how the Federations citizens have become soft and weak — traits which will render them defenseless if an enemy attacks. Later that night, a group of Essentialists storm the Risian Solarium, armed with phaser rifles.

Worf realizes that the attack is just a stunt to convince the Risian vacationers that they are vulnerable. That evening, Worf accuses Dax of not taking their relationship seriously. The next day, Worf sees Dax with Arandis, assumes the worst, and is overcome with jealousy. He goes to Fullerton's chambers and announces he knows how to drive the guests from Risa.

Soon afterwards, a powerful storm rocks Risa, putting an end to the resort's outdoor activities. Arandis realizes that rain indicates a problem with the planetary weather grid. Fullerton and Worf arrive and reveal that Worf has rigged a tricorder to sabotage the grid. Risa will experience its normal rainy climate for the next few days.

A furious Dax accuses Worf of destroying Risa because he does not trust her. He reluctantly reveals that his restrained attitude results from a childhood incident when he accidentally killed a human boy while having fun. Dax begins to understand, but the moment is shattered when a powerful earthquake shakes Risa. They rush to Fullerton's headquarters and Worf takes back the doctored tricorder, ending the shaking. He then reminds Fullerton that trust is also a traditional Federation value. After the weather grid restores the resort's pleasant climate, Worf is ready to enjoy what's left of their vacation, now that he has learned to trust Dax

Things Past
Sisko, Odo, Dax, and Garak are found unconscious in their runabout. While Bashir attempts to revive their bodies in the present, Sisko and the others wake up on Terok Nor — the station's previous name — during the Cardassian occupation of Bajor. They look normal to each other, but everyone else sees them as Bajorans. Odo, who was once Terok Nor's Chief of Security, seems particularly agitated and anxious. They spot Odo's predecessor, Thrax, which indicates that they have gone back in time at least nine years. Two soldiers then haul away Dax.
While Dax learns she has been selected to be Dukat's "friend," Garak scans the group to determine their identities. Sisko is a Bajoran named Ishan Chaye. Garak is Jillur Gueta. He then scans Odo, who supplies his own name — Timor Landi. Odo awkwardly explains that Timor, Ishan, and Jillur were falsely accused of trying to assassinate Gul Dukat on the Promenade — and were publicly executed there.

They realize that this is actually seven years ago, and Odo had taken over for Thrax as Security Chief. Since they must get off the station before their pending execution, Sisko contacts the Bajoran Resistance. However, the attempt on Dukat's life occurs before they leave, and Sisko, Odo, and Garak are arrested.

In a cell, Odo tries to convince Thrax to investigate further, but he refuses. Dax escapes from Dukat, frees her friends and leads them toward Dukat's shuttle. Thrax blocks their path and a fight ensues where he is revealed to be a Changeling. the group moves on toward the airlock, but as they enter, they suddenly find themselves back in the cell, where a soldier tells them they will be executed in two hours.

Sisko realizes everything leads back to Odo. Thrax and Odo appear on the Promenade, watching as Sisko, Dax, and Garak are about to executed. Odo exclaims that he won't let this happen again. The scene changes, leaving Odo alone with his friends. Further down the Promenade, they see the execution, with Odo wearing Thrax's uniform looking dispassionately. A horrified Odo admits that he — not Thrax — allowed the innocent Bajorans to die. Odo then wakes up in Deep Space Nine's Infirmary. Bashir tells him that a plasma storm the runabout encountered caused Odo's mind to lock his friends into a version of the Great Link. Odo realizes that his guilt forced him to relive the incident and face his failure.

Let He Who Is Without Sin... was a rather blaise episode (not one of my favorites). It was nice seeing the beautiful and lovely Vanessa Williams play a female companian on the planet Risa.

Things Past was a much better episode!. I really enjoyed the group (Sisko, Garek, Dax and Odo) that was the main focus of this interesting episode. It gave us a great look at how DS9 was run under Cardassian rule when enslaving the Bajorans. This wasn't an easy episode to follow or even understand but still a great episode.

[Starbase]

(Episode 7 & 8) of DS9 season V
Let He Who Is Without Sin...

This wasn't the greatest episode although it did show a politcal side to Worf that was interesting. The tension between Jadzia and Worf was quite thick throughout this episode. It showed just how provocative and interesting the Dax character is. We also learned about how Bajoran woman break up (Leeta and Bashir) with there boyfriends.

Things Past

Now this was a great episode!, I have this in my top 5 of the season V. There was one scene where we see Garek pleading and trying to bribe a Cardassian soldier so they won't arrest him. The thing is Garek looked like a Bajoran as did Sisko, Odo and Dax to everyone around them. So Garek was trying to act like a Bajoran facing arrest and torture would when the Bajorans were still under Cardassian rule, Brilliant!.

[the Fifth Race]

This wasn't the greatest episode although it did show a political side to Worf that was interesting. The tension between Jadzia and Worf was quite thick throughout this episode. It showed just how provocative and interesting the Dax character is. We also learned about how Bajoran woman break up (Leeta and Bashir) with there boyfriends.

Worf acted like a putz or another words a 'jealous Klingon in heat' throughout this episode. Again the best part of this forgettable episode was seeing Terry Farrell (Jadzia) and Vanessa Williams in skimpy bikini's

Now this was a great episode!, I have this in my top 5 of the season V. There was one scene where we see Garek pleading and trying to bribe a Cardassian soldier so they won't arrest him. The thing is Garek looked like a Bajoran as did Sisko, Odo and Dax to everyone around them. So Garek was trying to act like a Bajoran facing arrest and torture would when the Bajorans were still under Cardassian rule, Brilliant!.

Now that you point that out brother Starbase, that is actually a great observation. I remember that scene vividly and it did strike me odd to see Garek begging and pleading the way he did, it was so out of character for him. But now that you mentioned it and the fact that he looked Bajoran to everyone around him and with it being a earlier time when DS9 was Empok Nor and the Cardassians were still occupying Bajor, it made perfect sense, Garek was acting like a Bajoran like you pointed out.

[Starbase]

Did you notice in the episode Things Past the Kurtwood Smith (Red Forman from That 70's Show and the Federation president from the Star Trek movie 'The Undiscovered Country') played Thrax the Cardassian head of security for Terok Nor (DS9) who was the head of security before Odo was given that postion by Gul DuKat. Thrax was eventually exposed as a changling and killed but he played a big part in making this episode great!.

[the Fifth Race]

Did you notice in the episode Things Past the Kurtwood Smith (Red Foreman from That 70's Show and the Federation president from the Star Trek movie 'The Undiscovered Country') played Thrax the Cardassian head of security for Terok Nor (DS9) who was the head of security before Odo was given that position by Gul DuKat. Thrax was eventually exposed as a changeling and killed but he played a big part in making this episode great!.

I did notice that brother Base and you know what a huge 'That 70's Show' fan I am. Kurtwoods character as the Federation president that almost gets assassinated in the movie The Undiscovered Country was great so is his character Red 'Dumb-ass' Foreman on 'That 70's Show'. He has done a lot of scifi stuff in his expansive acting career. He was great in this episode like you mentioned.

[the Fifth Race]

(Episodes 9 & 10) of DS9 season V
The Ascent
Odo is dispatched to escort Quark to a Federation Grand Jury hearing, an eight-day journey away. Halfway to their destination, Quark hears a strange buzzing noise. When he and Odo investigate, they find a bomb aboard the runabout.
They contain the explosion in a transporter beam, but the runabout is still severely damaged. Forced to crash-land on a frozen, desolate planet, Odo and Quark learn that they lost their communications system, their replicator, and most of their rations in the explosion. They are left with a horrifying choice — starve to death or freeze to death — when Quark has an idea. Taking the runabout's subspace transmitter, he suggests they haul the heavy piece of equipment up an enormous mountain, where the atmosphere may be thin enough to send a signal for help.

Sharing one set of cold-weather gear between them, they make their way toward the mountain, bickering all the way. Quark is ready to give up when Odo encourages him with an estimate of six hours before reaching the top of the mountain. But Odo is wrong. As they clear the trees, they come to the edge of a steep cliff overlooking a deep valley. The mountain is actually days away.

With no other choice, Quark and Odo make their way down into the valley toward the mountain. The pair argues throughout the journey, even as they finally begin to climb the mountain. Words soon escalate into a shoving match, and they wind up sliding down the mountainside. While Quark is unhurt, Odo's leg is broken.

Quark tries to drag Odo up the mountain, but is soon proves to be too much work for him. Odo insists that Quark leave him behind andcontinue alone to the top, but Quark, exhausted and hungry, is ready to give up. After Odo tries to take the transmitter himself, broken leg and all, Quark is shamed into resuming his attempt. But when night falls, Odo is still alone, assuming that Quark failed to reach his goal and died. As Odo prepares to do the same, he is suddenly transported off the mountain. He finds himself on the U.S.S. Defiant — where Bashir, Dax, and Worf inform him that Quark indeed made it to the top and was able to signal for help. The longtime adversaries return to Deep Space Nine with an uncomfortable new aspect to their relationship — the fact that Quark saved Odo's life.

Rapture
When Sisko see a painting depicting B'hala, Bajor's legendary lost city, is returned by the Cardassians, Sisko is inspired to search for the famed site. The painting depicts an obelisk that, according to legend, marked the city's coordinates in the universe. Sisko studies the visible markings, then recreates the obelisk in the holosuite to try to determine what the hidden markings might be. After working until three in the morning, he tries to save his work, but the holosuite system shorts and knocks him unconscious. In the infirmary, Bashir tells Sisko his brain has been overloaded, and his senses will be enhanced for a few days. The doctor lets him go, but warns him to return if he experiences any side effects. That night, during dinner, Sisko absentmindedly cuts his fruit into a series of shapes, then realizes that they are missing marking from the obelisk. He returns to the holosuite, but is interrupted by a call from Admiral Whatley — Bajor has been accepted into the Federation, and the ceremony will be held on Deep Space Nine.
Back in the holosuite, Sisko has a vision that he is in B'hala. During the vision, he briefly understands all of Bajor's history and can see its future. Afterwards, he continues to study the obelisk, and just as he determines where B'hala should be located, Kasidy Yates, his old girlfriend, returns from prison. He invites her to accompany him to Bajor immediately, and, thrilled to be accepted back into his life, she agrees. On Bajor, Sisko is stricken with a painful headache. He ignores it, and soon finds the lost city of B'hala.

The Bajorans regard Sisko's discovery as a miracle and, for the skeptics, confirmation that he is the Emissary. Admiral Whatley, however, is more concerned that Sisko devote his energy to Bajor's admission into the Federation. He visits Sisko at the site on Bajor and asks him to come home. Sisko begs for more time, sensing that the lost city holds answers to some important questions. Reluctantly, the Admiral agrees — provided Sisko submit to a physical when he returns. When Sisko gets home, he seems to have psychic powers. Unfortunately, his headaches are getting worse.

Bashir determines that Sisko's headaches are life-threatening and asks to operate immediately. Sisko refuses, unwilling to put a stop to the visions. Jake and Kasidy are crushed, but Sisko is determined to see his visions through. He asks Kai Winn to help him consult the Orb of Prophecy, and while he sits with the powerful orb, the ceremony admitting Bajor to the Federation is put on hold. An angry Admiral Whatley finally begins the ceremony without Sisko, and the captain suddenly appears, weak and in obvious pain. He warns the assembled that if Bajor joins the Federation now, it will be destroyed.

Sisko is then rushed to the infirmary, where Bashir grimly reports that he must operate immediately to save his life. Since Sisko himself refused the operation, Jake, as the next-of-kin, must decide his father's fate. Unwilling to let his father die, Jake goes against Sisko's wishes and okays the operation. Sisko awakens to anguish at the loss of his visions. However, he was able to convince the Bajorans to put their admission to the Federation on hold. Kasidy gently reminds him that while he has lost something very important to him, what he saved — his life with his son — is even more precious

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The Ascent was a pretty good episode, watching Quark and Odo is always amusing but seeing them in together in a life and death situation was still rather funny. I love the scene at the end of the episode when they are both lying in the DS9 infirmary recovering and Quark looks at Odo in the next bed and tell's him "remember on the mountain when I said I hate you Odo?, I meant every word of it". Then Odo deadpans back at Quark and tell him "I know, I feel the sameway" and then they both begin laughing there alien butts off at each other.

Rapture wasn't one of favorites from season V, although I do love the character dynamic between Kira and Sisko. Sisko was very good in this episode and in a historical point of view this episode was important to the rest of the Dominion/Bajoran/Federation storyline.

[Starbase]

(Episodes 9 & 10) of DS9 season V
The Ascent
The Ascent was a pretty good episode, watching Quark and Odo is always amusing but seeing them in together in a life and death situation was still rather funny. I love the scene at the end of the episode when they are both lying in the DS9 infirmary recovering and Quark looks at Odo in the next bed and tell's him "remember on the mountain when I said I hate you Odo?, I meant every word of it". Then Odo deadpans back at Quark and tell him "I know, I feel the sameway" and then they both begin laughing there alien butts off at each other.

I really liked this episode, Quark was exceptionally outstanding in this Odo/Quark dedicated episode. The un-easiness between Quark and Odo while they were on a 6 day run-a-bout trip to a Starbase where Quark faced questioning about the Orion syndicate. That last scene in the infirmary when they laughingly re-declared there hatred for each other made me laugh out loud.

Rapture
Rapture wasn't one of favorites from season V, although I do love the character dynamic between Kira and Sisko. Sisko was very good in this episode and in a historical point of view this episode was important to the rest of the Dominion/Bajoran/Federation storyline.

Sisko was fantastic in this episode, the more I watch season V the more I realize just how great Sisko was. This was one of those Bajoran/Emmissary episodes that was better than most. The way the storylined played out with Sisko being instructed by the Prophets to not let Bajor join the Federation just yet was important to the way the rest of the Dominion war storyline played out.

[kmiller1610]

Sisko was fantastic in this episode, the more I watch season V the more I realize just how great Sisko was.

This was the episode where I began to admire the character. All the things that explain his attachment to Bajor come through here. His patience in studying the markings and his sense of wonder really come through. Every notice how the Sisko "phrasing" is sometimes similar to Willaim Shatner's? He pauses mid sentence to emphasize words in ways that you might expect at the end of a sentence.

[the Fifth Race]

This was the episode where I began to admire the character. All the things that explain his attachment to Bajor come through here. His patience in studying the markings and his sense of wonder really come through. Every notice how the Sisko "phrasing" is sometimes similar to Willaim Shatner's? He pauses mid sentence to emphasize words in ways that you might expect at the end of a sentence.

I never made the comparison between Sisko and Kirk with the way they phrase there sentences, but now that you mention it, they both did do the pause in mid-sentence to emphasize there point of view. That's a great observation you made kmiller!.

I agree with both you two!. Sisko's character was all over the place in season V. He was the loving Emissary part of the time, he was strict Captain running the station part of time and he was a physco bent on catching Eddington the Maquis defector at all costs. He played them all well and showed his diversity.

[Starbase]

This was the episode where I began to admire the character. All the things that explain his attachment to Bajor come through here. His patience in studying the markings and his sense of wonder really come through. Every notice how the Sisko "phrasing" is sometimes similar to Willaim Shatner's? He pauses mid sentence to emphasize words in ways that you might expect at the end of a sentence.

Like brother Fifth I never really noticed that about Sisko but after you mention it he does do the pause in mid-sentence. Sisko like Kirk is very boisterious with his voice and his annunciations. Doesn't Captain Sisko have a great baratone voice, like Worf his voice booms with low deep sound when he speaks?.

[kmiller1610]

Like brother Fifth I never really noticed that about Sisko but after you mention it he does do the pause in mid-sentence. Sisko like Kirk is very boisterious with his voice and his annunciations. Doesn't Captain Sisko have a great baratone voice, like Worf his voice booms with low deep sound when he speaks?.

Yes geat voice. In fact, some of my favoite Sisko-isms are where he sort of growls a line or understates it with that deep browed look. Sometimes when he's captaining the Defiant, I want to jump up and say "YES... now that's how a man who lives with his crew, inspires them, not by yelling, but by the power of his conviction and the strength of his tone....."

[the Fifth Race]

Doesn't Captain Sisko have a great baritone voice, like Worf his voice booms with a low deep sound when he speaks

I agree Sisko has one of the lowest voices I have ever heard anywhere!, Worf also has that deep low sound to his voice. The one guy you didn't mention who also has a nice low deep voice is Picard.

Yes geat voice. In fact, some of my favoite Sisko-isms are where he sort of growls a line or understates it with that deep browed look. Sometimes when he's captaining the Defiant, I want to jump up and say "YES... now that's how a man who lives with his crew, inspires them, not by yelling, but by the power of his conviction and the strength of his tone....."

LOL....Sisko would send chills up a lot of peoples spine if he started yelling at you. His voice does exude confidence along with his demeanor and physical prowess, definetly a man born to lead.

[Starbase]

Yes geat voice. In fact, some of my favoite Sisko-isms are where he sort of growls a line or understates it with that deep browed look. Sometimes when he's captaining the Defiant, I want to jump up and say "YES... now that's how a man who lives with his crew, inspires them, not by yelling, but by the power of his conviction and the strength of his tone....."

Sisko is a great leader type, they chose well when they cast Avery Brooks to play Sisko. I was a huge fan of Avery Brook's when he played Hawk (a bounty hunter) on the great 80's television show Spencer for Hire starring the late Robert Urich. Brook's Hawk character was outstanding and even though he didn't speak to much he was a bad-azz.

[HirogenGater]

Sisko is a great leader type, they chose well when they cast Avery Brooks to play Sisko. I was a huge fan of Avery Brook's when he played Hawk (a bounty hunter) on the great 80's television show Spencer for Hire starring the late Robert Urich. Brook's Hawk character was outstanding and even though he didn't speak to much he was a bad-azz.

Avery Brooks also did a voice in the Disney animated Series Gargoyles. He played an alien in an episode called "Sentinel". His voice is instantly recognizable. Actually a lot of Trek actors lent their voices to that cartoon. Spiner, Mulgrew. I also want to say Sirtis but now I'm not sure.