Originaly Posted by dasNdanger
We've been discussing the Helen/Druitt scenes in the Helen/Druitt thread.
Some things we've noticed...
In there last scene together, Druitt's hand doesn't cast a shadow on her cheek (though after he's gone her coat or hair casts a shadow on her cheek). This suggests that he is just her imagination, and didn't jump into her reality.
However, there is also a flash of light when he tells her to wake up. I wonder if, in that one instant, the real Druitt - or at the very least, his consciousness - did reach out to her. Perhaps not, but it would be a nice thought to consider.
Something else about that scene, however - really, all of their scenes together. This was Helen's mind, Helen remembering their times together, Helen questioning herself if she ever really loved him, and admitting - beyond a shadow of a doubt - that she did. If that's the case, then - at that moment when Druitt told her to wake up - then it was her remembering that he was, at one time - good.
Now - was it the creature telling her to wake up? No - I don't think so. I think that was really either Helen's good memories of John trying to save her, or the real John's consciousness reaching through time and space to help her.
From the little I know of John, and his relationship with Helen, I suspect it's a very intense love-hate thing between them. Even though John's a monster now, there is still part of him that clings to his old humanity, part of him that isn't pure evil. It could have been this part of him - either figuratively or literally - reaching out to help Helen in her time of need.
It was, I feel, the best moment of the episode - very intense, and very thought-provoking.
das
We've been discussing the Helen/Druitt scenes in the Helen/Druitt thread.
Some things we've noticed...
In there last scene together, Druitt's hand doesn't cast a shadow on her cheek (though after he's gone her coat or hair casts a shadow on her cheek). This suggests that he is just her imagination, and didn't jump into her reality.
However, there is also a flash of light when he tells her to wake up. I wonder if, in that one instant, the real Druitt - or at the very least, his consciousness - did reach out to her. Perhaps not, but it would be a nice thought to consider.
Something else about that scene, however - really, all of their scenes together. This was Helen's mind, Helen remembering their times together, Helen questioning herself if she ever really loved him, and admitting - beyond a shadow of a doubt - that she did. If that's the case, then - at that moment when Druitt told her to wake up - then it was her remembering that he was, at one time - good.
Now - was it the creature telling her to wake up? No - I don't think so. I think that was really either Helen's good memories of John trying to save her, or the real John's consciousness reaching through time and space to help her.
From the little I know of John, and his relationship with Helen, I suspect it's a very intense love-hate thing between them. Even though John's a monster now, there is still part of him that clings to his old humanity, part of him that isn't pure evil. It could have been this part of him - either figuratively or literally - reaching out to help Helen in her time of need.
It was, I feel, the best moment of the episode - very intense, and very thought-provoking.
das
Though it was all in her head i believe if Druitt was realy there she was telling how she realy still fell's for him having a chance to remember the good old day's before facing the monster ahead .
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