The Fifth Stage (412)

[ZeroPoint]

although Nathan's gone, i'm hoping having Nathan in his head will bring some kinda change to Sylar...IDK about everyone else, but i'm tired of the kill, kill, kill just because i can Sylar...they've been playing the same card for 3 1/2 seasons now...

something that hasn't been mention, Samuel implies that Claire isn't the one he wants but rather shes the key to bringing the person he really seeks to him..i wonder who it is he actually seeks...i guess it could be HRG but its also possible it could be Peter...Samuel did visit Peter for what seems like no reason so far...

I brought up before that it might be good for Nathan and Sylar to mentally discuss matters and Sylar gets talked into being a good guy for a while, and trying to be helpful when _everyone_ is out to get him. Remember that Gabriel/Sylar is still wanted by the police.

And again, I dislike the writing involving with Samuel/Carnival. Multiple shows with Gabriel at the carnival, for nothing. Hiro brought in to do one thing, then blanked to the sidelines. If they don't continue why Sylar was brought in, or the film that Hiro retrieved, then the carnival is wasted screen time.

[TBA]

What are you talking about? The film is the entire reason for Samuel's current plans. The film shows that his powers increase when others with powers are around him. Exponentially.

[ZeroPoint]

Which fit in with everything he was doing before having the film in the first place, like gathering people with powers in an area that can apparently move from place to place. I don't remember a scene where he went to view the film, so for all I know he didn't see it. Either way, he should have noticed his power building with each powered person added to the carnival, and only need the film to confirm something that should had ample evidence already. At least talk about the damn film after getting it so we remember that plot.

[yessika]

Which fit in with everything he was doing before having the film in the first place, like gathering people with powers in an area that can apparently move from place to place. I don't remember a scene where he went to view the film, so for all I know he didn't see it. Either way, he should have noticed his power building with each powered person added to the carnival, and only need the film to confirm something that should had ample evidence already. At least talk about the damn film after getting it so we remember that plot.

He did look at the film, don't know which episode, Hiro was banging outside his door and he did find out about how his powers increases exponentially

[ZeroPoint]

I stand corrected. Thank you Yessika. I remember the scene slightly, but don't recall it being dark inside or seeing a projector.

If your use of the word "exponentially" is correct, then that helps my statement that Samuel should have see power increases prior to watching the film.

[beafly]

If I were collecting people with powers, Noah would be a pretty good resource. His files were a good start, but I think Samuel might be using Claire to lure Noah to the carnival.

[Aerilon]

If your use of the word "exponentially" is correct, then that helps my statement that Samuel should have see power increases prior to watching the film.

Perhaps, but perhaps not.

Think of it this way, somethings the really obvious doesn't actually become obvious, until it is pointed out. Samuel may not have noticed the strength of his power, until he actually watched that film, to which he'd have thought "well hang on a minute, come to think of it, I am stronger now".

If I were collecting people with powers, Noah would be a pretty good resource. His files were a good start, but I think Samuel might be using Claire to lure Noah to the carnival.

Noah, Peter or Sylar are my bets, or maybe even Angela? We know she can see the future (in a manner of speaking). Think what Samuel would / could acomplish if Angela decided to help him. With the loss of Nathan, she may not be thinking straight anymore..?

[rosey_angel]

what an awesome ep! the ending, such a shocker. and i'm really liking Samuel. he's all in with the love and stuff and it's convincing until you remember who he is. great acting on kneppers part.

one thing i find funny, and i always find funny, is the continual forgetting of b characters like lyle.
like when noah was talking about the people he's hurt in his life by lying, and he didn't mention his son. or when nathan was saying his goodbyes, and telling peter to say goodbye to mum and to look after claire, and he didn't mention his sons AT ALL!!! i was like, dude, remember those two little humans that were running around your house for all those years? they wree your kids!

[AVFan]

what an awesome ep! the ending, such a shocker. and i'm really liking Samuel. he's all in with the love and stuff and it's convincing until you remember who he is. great acting on kneppers part.

one thing i find funny, and i always find funny, is the continual forgetting of b characters like lyle.
like when noah was talking about the people he's hurt in his life by lying, and he didn't mention his son. or when nathan was saying his goodbyes, and telling peter to say goodbye to mum and to look after claire, and he didn't mention his sons AT ALL!!! i was like, dude, remember those two little humans that were running around your house for all those years? they wree your kids!

Noah mentioned something about Lyle being off at school at some point.

You have a valid point though, mostly.

[Inquisitor]

To be honest, I forgot about his kids (although I knew about the ex-paraplegic ex-wife who was cured by Mr. Linderman). Maybe he (or the writers) never cared?

[Saquist]

I have to admit I haven't been watching...and need to pick it back up.

[the fifth man]

I have to admit I haven't been watching...and need to pick it back up.

Yeah, you do. IMO, this has been a very good season thus far.

[boyd22]

Yeah, you do. IMO, this has been a very good season thus far.

its definitely an improvement over last season...there are a few things i find boring, Claire and HRG's storyline for example...

[Alan Wake]

I'm tempted to make a sig out of the disfigured syler face. I actually found that scene very funny

[LanDodger]

seeing as there isn't a thread for episode 13 and 14

I laughed at disfigured Sylar as well lol, I liked both episodes a lot and thought they were back at the same quality of old Heroes

another thing I noticed, forgive me if I am wrong, is that Peter got his original power back? He used Claire to heal and then flew off at the end after looking at Nathans picture

Bennet was a bit naive as well I thought, especially in his treatment of Edgar