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Are the books as good as the HBO series?
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I know he split them, and while i can understand how he did it and why, I sometimes have to wonder if a more readable way would have been to split them up based on chronology rather than characters.
Spoiler:it was quite disconcerting to read Dance and have to remember, yeah, rewind a year, that hasn't happened yet'
its' like you lose contact with certain characters for so long and you kinda forget about them.
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Originally posted by Skydiver View PostI know he split them, and while i can understand how he did it and why, I sometimes have to wonder if a more readable way would have been to split them up based on chronology rather than characters.
Spoiler:it was quite disconcerting to read Dance and have to remember, yeah, rewind a year, that hasn't happened yet'
its' like you lose contact with certain characters for so long and you kinda forget about them.Spoiler:that he found a good point in the middle to wrap things up for the one half and then have a good start for the other. The way that it sounds seems like reading the same story again, just from a different angle. That doesn't seem as fun.
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Originally posted by The Lady Blue View PostI read your spoiler, and that does not sound good. It just doesn't seem logical. I've heard that the book was split into two, but I just assumedSpoiler:that he found a good point in the middle to wrap things up for the one half and then have a good start for the other. The way that it sounds seems like reading the same story again, just from a different angle. That doesn't seem as fun.
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I had no idea that Game of Thrones was a book series. Then I bought them all. I started reading A Clash of Kings, O.M.goodness I just could not get into it. It makes my brother crazy because he read them all in one setting. He was reading a Feast of Crows, I was stuck on Arya in ACOK. He was half way through Dragons. Clash of Kings just started up.
I have Dyspraxia and huge paragraphs after a while get a muddled and I lose my place. So one day I was not reading Clash and my brother snatched it out of my hands and said "just watch the show." So I did.Why did you do such a thing, you mediocre dunces?
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Originally posted by The Lady Blue View PostI read your spoiler, and that does not sound good. It just doesn't seem logical. I've heard that the book was split into two, but I just assumedSpoiler:that he found a good point in the middle to wrap things up for the one half and then have a good start for the other. The way that it sounds seems like reading the same story again, just from a different angle. That doesn't seem as fun.
Yeah, no
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It's like a year is told from the POV of this group of characters in one book, then you read the other book and it's told from the POV of the others.
not a publishing choice I would have made because there were a few times when I was reading the later book and thinking 'no wait that's wrong...oh right, this event hasn't happened yet'
I'm gonna guess, when HBO gets that far, they will make a different choice
Spoiler:If for no other reason than to keep all the actors on contract and working instead of having part of them take a year off and then see if they can get them back or deal with the physical changes that go on during that year....especially with actresses like Arya, who will literally grow too much during a year off to be easily seen as the same character
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I liked the idea of splitting up the POVs into different books. The problem is that so much time passed between the release of AFOC and ADWD that people forgot the story lines. If, for instance, ADWD would have been released the following year, I think it would have worked out a lot better.
I am sure the HBO show will make the necessary adjustments in terms of the timeline. They have shown they will make the changes they think work best of television, as shown by their decision to split up the next book into two seasons.sigpic
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There are book loyalists who will say the books are masterpieces, and those are generally the same people who have a problem with every small deviation from the source material, even if those deviations make complete narrative sense.
But the problem with that view is that just because it was in the books, doesn't mean it's "better" in a narrative sense.
The truth is that George R.R. Martin has a great ear for dialogue and writes most of his characters masterfully, but he's also undisciplined, prone to long and pointless detours, and in dire need of a good editor. Even his most loyal fans seem to realize this, judging by the thousands upon thousands of underwhelming reviews of the last few books in the series on sites like Amazon.
The first two books are, for the most part, well-structured and move along at a solid pace. The third book starts to exhibit problems that seriously plague the two most recent books. And even though the third book features arguably the most dramatic and jaw-dropping developments, it has serious flaws.
I like the books as an extended guide to the universe of ASOIAF and a great way for fans to delve deeper into history and politics underpinning the narrative.
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Originally posted by magictrick View PostI liked the idea of splitting up the POVs into different books. The problem is that so much time passed between the release of AFOC and ADWD that people forgot the story lines. If, for instance, ADWD would have been released the following year, I think it would have worked out a lot better.
I am sure the HBO show will make the necessary adjustments in terms of the timeline. They have shown they will make the changes they think work best of television, as shown by their decision to split up the next book into two seasons.
Dance with Dragons, on the other hand, had me fascinated from page one. Despite several slow sections, the reader got the sense of some real forward momentum, which was sorely lacking in Feast, at least for me.sigpic
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Originally posted by Brother Freyr View Postha, you'll wait a long timesigpic
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I read some reviews on Amazon and it's very funny how some of the fans reviewed the last 2 books here are the links warning there are some spoilers
http://www.amazon.com/Feast-Crows-So...east+for+crows
you have to scroll down to see them but it is very funny
http://www.amazon.com/Dance-Dragons-...I1QAVKVG80PJY2
reading these does make me wonder if I should even bother with the books at all though the general impression I get is that the first 3 books are really good but the last 2 are not as well written and has a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense or plot holes and he really doesn't seem to know what direction he's goingsigpic
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Originally posted by poundpuppy29 View Postthe general impression I get is that the first 3 books are really good but the last 2 are not as well written and has a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense or plot holes and he really doesn't seem to know what direction he's going
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Parts of 'A Feast For Crows' were interesting and parts of it seemed to go no where, but I managed to stay curious as to where he was going... (am still reading ADWD)
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