Discussion about hot topics trending today

[Annoyed]

Bernie assumed command, he called the investigation remember. Oh and by the way in regards to that, it's really not looking good for your boy! Seems like every single person that were acquainted with him portrays him as a loud drunk.

Tssk tssk , and here I thought the elites were aboveimmune to reproach.

But Bernie was swept aside by the masters of the DNC in favor of their chosen one.

As far as Kavanaugh goes, it's in the hands of the Senate now. The FBI has completed its investigation, and the Senate has the results in their hands now.

[SoulReaver]

it's really not looking good for your boy!

american Democrats - always counting their chickens before they hatch
you know this hasn't exactly worked well in the past has it? it's like they jinxed it

besides if Government & the elites (like KOCH) want Kavanaugh confirmed there's not much that can be legally done to prevent it

[Annoyed]

besides if Government & the elites (like KOCH) want Kavanaugh confirmed there's not much that can be legally done to prevent it

That should be: "If the Republicans choose to confirm Kavanaugh, there is nothing the Democrats can legally do to stop it"

Which is exactly why the went the smear campaign route.

[jelgate]

Prove it

[Annoyed]

Prove it

That which is obvious does not need proof.

[jelgate]

And that is why we laugh off your crackpot ideas. You have no credible evidence to back it up

[Annoyed]

And that is why we laugh off your crackpot ideas. You have no credible evidence to back it up

Speaking of no credible evidence, have you heard of Christine Ford?

[jelgate]

Your use of logical fallacies suggest you have no proof of your conspiracy theories. Gatefan, I'll take my bacon sandwich now

[SoulReaver]

Speaking of no credible evidence, have you heard of Christine Ford?

Speaking of no credible evidence, have you heard of Andrea Constand?
Speaking of no credible evidence, have you heard of Asia Argento?

[jelgate]

Speaking of credible evidence, have you heard about the Russian investigation?

[aretood2]

Maybe it's not him, but the principle of the thing.

Let's face it, at this point it doesn't matter what happens to Kavanaugh, the circus around his nomination in and of itself undermines the foundations of American democracy.

You just noticed this now? That meal has been cooked a long time ago.

Simple. The Democrats just can't accept losing. They elected Obama in 2008, then the voters rejected his agenda by turning the House over to the Republicans in 2010, followed by the Senate in 2014. Their response was Obama exceeding his authority via executive order. Then, they screwed up royally in 2016, which resulted in Trump winning the White House, which includes the right to nominate judicial appointments, so they are losing the Judiciary, too, which was their primary means of advancing their agenda.

The voters have rejected their liberal agenda, but rather than rethink their agenda so that it is more palatable to the voters, they've just been running around as crazy as stepped-on cockroaches. Reid established the precedent of the "Nuclear Option" in order to get Obama's judicial appointments through, they tried like hell to reverse Trump's win in 2016, and now we have this utterly disgraceful attempt to smear Kavanaugh, 'cause they have no legitimate, legal way to stop him.

If by "the voters" you mean the minority of the electorate that voted for Trump? Then sure, it was the voters. What got Trump in was the system and not the voters. What have the GOP the house after Obama's landslide victories (he did that twice, btw) was gerrymandering.

[Coco Pops]

You just noticed this now? That meal has been cooked a long time ago.



If by "the voters" you mean the minority of the electorate that voted for Trump? Then sure, it was the voters. What got Trump in was the system and not the voters. What have the GOP the house after Obama's landslide victories (he did that twice, btw) was gerrymandering.

Again there you go stating facts. We can't have that

[mad_gater]

You just noticed this now? That meal has been cooked a long time ago.



If by "the voters" you mean the minority of the electorate that voted for Trump? Then sure, it was the voters. What got Trump in was the system and not the voters. What have the GOP the house after Obama's landslide victories (he did that twice, btw) was gerrymandering.

for the umpteenth time....presidential elections are not decided by nationwide popular vote...they are decided by the Electoral College....you know...the body that's there to ensure that EVERY state has input on electing a new President? If it went by nationwide popular vote that means that the candidates would only have to campaign in the states with the highest population densities and bypass the states with the lowest population densities (such as the largely rural plains states in the middle of the country)...leaving said low-density states out of the process altogether. It may not be a perfect system but at least in this system EVERY state has representation in the process.

[SoulReaver]

for the umpteenth time....presidential elections are not decided by nationwide popular vote...they are decided by the Electoral College....you know...the body that's there to ensure that EVERY state has input

the People be damned

"nothing outside the state*, against the state, above the state, everything to the state for the state within the state" ~Benito Mussolini





*I know it's not referring to the same state but it's the same gist

[Annoyed]

If by "the voters" you mean the minority of the electorate that voted for Trump? Then sure, it was the voters. What got Trump in was the system and not the voters. What have the GOP the house after Obama's landslide victories (he did that twice, btw) was gerrymandering.

And who gets to draw district boundary lines? The party that controls the legislature in that state; IE, chosen by the voters. And the Democrats do this just as much as the Republicans. Take a look at former NY congresscritter Louse Slaughter's former district before it was redrawn in 2013 sometime.

Regarding the EC, in addition to MG's points above, the system was in place, known to both parties. It's not the Republicans fault they used it better than the Democrats, that's on the Democrats. Blame them if you have to.