Discussion about hot topics trending today

[Gatefan1976]

She thinks and looks different than us. Lets stone her. And not the good kind

Amateur.
I suggest the pear of Anguish

[Falcon Horus]

Amateur.
I suggest the pear of Anguish

The pear of Anguish?

[jelgate]

Amateur.
I suggest the pear of Anguish

The last time we did that I woke up in Tokyo and lost a weekend.

[Falcon Horus]

The last time we did that I woke up in Tokyo and lost a weekend.

[Coco Pops]

Can't you put a pea under her pillow?

[garhkal]

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Most people I know simply argue "I have nothing to hide so why should I worry" without realising the true implications of such laws being easily adaptable, the other argument I hear is "if it helps stop terrorism I'm all for it" completely oblivious that anybody up to no good wouldn't use the systems covered by the legislation anyway.

And as i like saying "If people had nothing to hide there wouldn't be need for password protections, locks on your house etc..".

Its the same argument you get from the cashless society supporters, they're so blinded by the excitement and aparant benefits of the system, that they are completely oblivious to the other not-so-nice uses it can be used for.

I would love to see those dunces all for a cashless society be in their OWN part of the world as a test bed, and then see what happens if/when the entire computer systems down there crash...

What is scary about that group is that they are conning people into the cashless society. It's one of the perfect means of tracking and controlling people. Once everyone is cashless well guess what happens?

Which is why i DON'T support an all cashless society..

Have you no consideration for the victim?

YEs i do. BUT i was only bringing the subject UP after seeing a news article on it.. NOT TAKING A STANCE one way or the other..

On that subject: have a more recent article that's more or less in the same line of your post, except that it deals with men sexually abusing minors and instead of getting punished, they punish the minors by allowing the men to go free should they marry the victims.

MPs in Turkey support bill allowing child rapists to go free if they marry their victim

SInce its Turkey, its imo not surprising one bit.. I take it that came from the MUSLIM side of turkey?

By that logic, FDR should have never been president. Spreken ze deutsch?

IMO it should be 2 at MOST from any family tree.. so 2 bushes ' check'..
1 clinton already, so if mamma tries again in 2020, or chelsea does down the road.. OK..
3 or more.. NOT ON..

This one has more to do with technology and convenience. All the pros and cons that go with it too. I find it easier to simply give the cashier a card than to worry about dropping loose change everywhere and stopping at the bank fifty times a week to get more cash because God help me if I loose my wallet with all of my earnings in it. Cards can simply be canceled.

Ever tried shopping when the networks/powers out?? Cant use your card..

Cash will go away by itself eventually.

Before that, it's pointless to try and ban it. People will simply resort to using other countries' currencies for interpersonal transactions or create scrips and gift cards and debt notes.

But as electronic payments expand, cash registers will begin to disappear simply because businesses will not want the burden and the costs of handling cash anymore. Those armored cars that take cash to the banks cost a pretty penny. And frankly, as a consumer, if I could pay with cards or, better yet, my phone for everything, there's no way I'd carry cash. So no-cash businesses will proliferate and the room to use cash will shrink until zero.

Yes it may, but i hope i am long dead and buried before that day comes... I like me cash in my pocket!

[Womble]

Can't speak for other nations, but U.S. currency has this printing on it which states "This note is legal tender for all debts, public & private."
Like it or not, they have to take it.

Right, so try and pay cash on Amazon. They are, after all, an American company.

[thekillman]

And as i like saying "If people had nothing to hide there wouldn't be need for password protections, locks on your house etc..".

And while you're at it, give me your credit card information. Got nothing to hide, right? While you're at it, your twitter username and password, same for Facebook, Gateworld, etc. Got nothing to hide right?

And then suddenly they dont like the idea anymore.

[Coco Pops]

And while you're at it, give me your credit card information. Got nothing to hide, right? While you're at it, your twitter username and password, same for Facebook, Gateworld, etc. Got nothing to hide right?

And then suddenly they dont like the idea anymore.

But again what I don't get about this is why they are putting the onus on the telco or ISP to hold onto the data. Why can't the govt. do it if they want this so badly?

[Gatefan1976]

Australia does not keep content Co-co, they keep meta data.

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

But again what I don't get about this is why they are putting the onus on the telco or ISP to hold onto the data. Why can't the govt. do it if they want this so badly?

Because they don't know how. Remember David Cameron's speech about how he planned to end all encryption? Someone taught him a scary sounding computer word and he was immediately against it.

The politicians also let police catch criminals instead of doing it themselves. When was the last time your local MP performed surgery on you when you were sick? It's an outrage!! How dare they leave things to people who know what they're doing?!!

[Falcon Horus]

Can't you put a pea under her pillow?

Sounds less dangerous than the pear of Anguish.

SInce its Turkey, its imo not surprising one bit.. I take it that came from the MUSLIM side of turkey?

I'd say Turkey was pretty progressive, and it's from Erdogan's party.
I believe Turkey only has one side, with a few minorities thrown in for good measure, so I don't know what that has got to do with anything.

BUT...

Here's your Christian side having laws about it -- yes, I stumbled across a CNN documentary about rape victims having to share the kid with the "father":

'I have to text my rapist': Victims forced to parent with attackers

Trapped in a bad dream.

That's how an 18-year-old Noemi felt when she learned that she had no choice but to hand over her baby daughter to the man convicted of assaulting her.

Noemi's child was conceived in the assault, and Nebraska's laws on parental rights forced her to agree to court-sanctioned visits between her daughter and her attacker.

[Coco Pops]

Australia does not keep content Co-co, they keep meta data.

Yes I know........ I thought I said that.

[Coco Pops]

Because they don't know how. Remember David Cameron's speech about how he planned to end all encryption? Someone taught him a scary sounding computer word and he was immediately against it.

The politicians also let police catch criminals instead of doing it themselves. When was the last time your local MP performed surgery on you when you were sick? It's an outrage!! How dare they leave things to people who know what they're doing?!!

There are government agencies capable of doing data collection. Why should the ISP or telco be made to do this?

I'm not in the UK so never heard any of the crap Cameron rabbits on about.

[Annoyed]

But again what I don't get about this is why they are putting the onus on the telco or ISP to hold onto the data. Why can't the govt. do it if they want this so badly?

Because it goes through the ISP/Telco on the way to wherever, and the return traffic does also. From a technical standpoint, it is the logical collection point. As far as storage, yes, that should fall upon the government's shoulders, but why would the government assume that cost if they can foist it off on the ISP?

But on a larger scale, isn't even looking at my traffic presuming I'm guilty? If you ask me, no data should be recorded or viewed without a proper search warrant. This is a gross overstep of govt, authority, if you ask me.,