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[Annoyed]

Hahaha... I like this guy!

'Suck it up': Lawmaker wants to cut funding for schools coddling students over Trump

An Iowa lawmaker is looking to slash funding for public colleges spending money on grief counseling and other kid-glove treatment for students upset over last week’s presidential election results -- telling snowflakes everywhere: “Suck it up, buttercup.”

Since Donald Trump’s upset victory last Tuesday, colleges across the country have brought in therapy dogs, canceled exams and held “cry-ins” on campus.

But Republican state Rep. Bobby Kaufmann says he will introduce a “suck it up, buttercup” bill in January when the Iowa State Legislature resumes, in a bid to fight back against campus coddling.

The bill would hit taxpayer-funded state universities with a budget cut for double the amount they spend on such election-related activities. Kaufmann emphasized that existing therapy and mental health services are not being targeted.

[garhkal]

Now why can't they do that for all these cities coming FLAT OUT In favor of sanctuary status, telling the fed to effectively GFT..
Or like that chief of police in LA< who said "my officers will not enforce any immigration law.."//

[SoulReaver]

telling the fed to effectively GFT..

lol. Trump's all for a an all-powerful central government in case it escaped your attention

[Annoyed]

Now why can't they do that for all these cities coming FLAT OUT In favor of sanctuary status, telling the fed to effectively GFT..
Or like that chief of police in LA< who said "my officers will not enforce any immigration law.."//

Isn't Trump planning on cutting federal funding for those cities? I'm sure that will have an impact on their policies.

[Falcon Horus]

Yeah, let's cut funding to schools. Who needs education anyway? China's gonna take the jobs so Americans don't need all that education.

[Annoyed]

Yeah, let's cut funding to schools. Who needs education anyway? China's gonna take the jobs so Americans don't need all that education.

Why should there have to be any cuts? If these cities behave themselves, they won't see a cut.
If they want to defy the federal govt., there is a cost to that decision and they should be willing to accept that.

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

Hahaha... I like this guy!

'Suck it up': Lawmaker wants to cut funding for schools coddling students over Trump

This is just a University budget cut dressed up in a way the angry old men of the "Alt-Right" like you will get excited about.

Cutting funding to schools, limiting access to education. Holding young people back, forcing them into low paying jobs so the tax payers have to pay more to support them.

In the long run this will cost you more.

[Gatefan1976]

Good way to bring them to heel, what's next when that does not work?
The national guard?

[Gatefan1976]

This is just a University budget cut dressed up in a way the angry old men of the "Alt-Right" like you will get excited about.

Cutting funding to schools, limited education. Holding young people back, forcing them into low paying jobs so the tax payers have to pay more to support them.

In the long run this will cost you more.

No kids, so what does it matter?
Climate change, who cares if it is real or not, won't be around to care.

It's a win/win...............

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

Why should there have to be any cuts? If these cities behave themselves, they won't see a cut.
If they want to defy the federal govt., there is a cost to that decision and they should be willing to accept that.

Cutting a city's budget.. There's a brilliant idea! What effect do you think that will have?

People will start to leave. Starting with the rich. Businesses will collapse without the money to support them. This plan will turn your cities into ghost towns.

Only a moron would celebrate the destruction of their own country's infrastructure to spite a few people who don't have the right papers to be there.

[SGalisa]

If California left the USA you all would be screwed.

Not so. That's what the west coast *wants* the rest of the USA to believe. That includes Oregon and Washington state, too. What are their exports to the rest of the states? Most of the state(s) is wilderness. Some of Oregon and Washington state have mineral mines, but those are mostly exhausted by now in resources. The tree logging industry has been stopped or strictly minimized, so there's no new trees to make furniture or other (large) wooden items from those states. Plus, the environmentalists are whining about harming the environment if further progress continues (strip mining, etc), which is understandable.

However, breaking away may end up being them all screwing themselves. They'll have to get their water from the ocean, instead of relying on neighboring states during those massive wildfires they seem to get every year (some caused by nature, the rest deliberately by arsonists). Otherwise, they'll end up paying out extra money to obtain their good neighbor policy of having water donated to them during such crisises.

California is also the state that reversed the dam that redirected and supplied much of the water into the Napa Valley (green valleys) region, in order to save a 3-inch fish from extinction that is really a parasitic fish.

As for the rest of the USA getting agricultural crops from California's "green" basket, whatever veggie crops are grown out there can be replicated in the midwest and east coast.
California is currently in a severe drought with little relief in sight (there are long term *emergency* regulations in place to spare what precious little water is left out there). Their veggie products are coming out with serious signs of drought distress.

Problem is that the state of California has had ample opportunities to build more desalination plants, and renegged on those for years. They freaked out when somewhere in Europe or the Middle East had a problem with marine life getting caught in the intake strainers and clogging up the system, so avoiding building more desalination facilities.


East coast news----New York is currently under a drought, but so is New Jersey. NY now wants to buy a million gallons daily of NJ's reservoir water to feed NY residents and businesses. Not sure how well that will go, especially if we end up with more people moving into those regions. Plus, NJ needs the rain and doesn't have the luxury of as many mountains as upstate NY has, where many of NY's reservoirs exist.

Now Some people in Oregon are joining on the "lets all secede from trump's USA". IF Ca, Or and Washington state all seceded, what financially do you see as the impact from it?

They could all go bye-bye, as far as some folks in the mid-west and east coast folks are concerned. Take Chicago, Ill and parts of Michigan with them, too.

Short term-wise, it will cost in the higher range -- on the immediate outlook to work around losing those regions for agriculture. Long term-wise, there could be or will be great year round benefits that eventually could feed other countries, either nearby or far away, too.

Alternative agricultural plans could include going forth thruout every remaining USA state and start building indoor veggie gardens, or convert existing empty buildings into indoor gardens. This would also keep the buggy pests and wild animals away, or at an extreme minimum; and it's easier to control the water and soil irrigation systems from severe, outdoor weather, and possibly utilize recycled watering systems especially in hydroponic gardening. Plus, the indoor gardens can be operated year-round, even in the winter months, because it is all indoors and under a *controlled environment*..

Use the examples from Epcott at Disneyworld (in Florida) for vertical farming methods. It's amazing what can be accomplished by using smaller acreage areas, plus, gain the benefits of not dealing with as many outdoor pesticides, which are needed in the greater outdoor crops. Grow the bigger foods outside in soil applicable zones, and the smaller crops indoors using hydroponics and/or vertical farming methods. I'd do it myself for my own family, but don't have the property or finances to do it yet.. Could feed the whole neighborhood too, but not under the current rules/regs of the gov't without a permit to do so.

President Obama could have given the order to have those indoor gardens built on a grand scale, but focused more on the Middle East war(s), instead of making amazing improvements here on the USA homefront.

[Gatefan1976]

Not so. That's what the west coast *wants* the rest of the USA to believe. That includes Oregon and Washington state, too. What are their exports to the rest of the states? Most of the state(s) is wilderness. Some of Oregon and Washington state have mineral mines, but those are mostly exhausted by now in resources. The tree logging industry has been stopped or strictly minimized, so there's no new trees to make furniture or other (large) wooden items from those states. Plus, the environmentalists are whining about harming the environment if further progress continues (strip mining, etc), which is understandable.

Their exports?
Money and Intelligence.

However, breaking away may end up being them all screwing themselves. They'll have to get their water from the ocean, instead of relying on neighboring states during those massive wildfires they seem to get every year (some caused by nature, the rest deliberately by arsonists). Otherwise, they'll end up paying out extra money to obtain their good neighbor policy of having water donated to them during such crisises.

Where are you getting your power from?

California is also the state that reversed the dam that redirected and supplied much of the water into the Napa Valley (green valleys) region, in order to save a 3-inch fish from extinction that is really a parasitic fish.

Is it red as well?

As for the rest of the USA getting agricultural crops from California's "green" basket, whatever veggie crops are grown out there can be replicated in the midwest and east coast.
California is currently in a severe drought with little relief in sight (there are long term *emergency* regulations in place to spare what precious little water is left out there). Their veggie products are coming out with serious signs of drought distress.

Oh, you can feed yourselves without California, no doubt.

Problem is that the state of California has had ample opportunities to build more desalination plants, and renegged on those for years. They freaked out when somewhere in Europe or the Middle East had a problem with marine life getting caught in the intake strainers and clogging up the system, so avoiding building more desalination facilities.

Damn conscious, caring about things besides yourself.

East coast news----New York is currently under a drought, but so is New Jersey. NY now wants to buy a million gallons daily of NJ's reservoir water to feed NY residents and businesses. Not sure how well that will go, especially if we end up with more people moving into those regions. Plus, NJ needs the rain and doesn't have the luxury of as many mountains as upstate NY has, where many of NY's reservoirs exist.

Climate change is a myth..........

They could all go bye-bye, as far as some folks in the mid-west and east coast folks are concerned. Take Chicago, Ill and parts of Michigan with them, too.

I never knew Chi-town was a state.............

Short term-wise, it will cost in the higher range -- on the immediate outlook to work around losing those regions for agriculture. Long term-wise, there could be or will be great year round benefits that eventually could feed other countries, either nearby or far away, too.

It will cost, and you are poised to gut your moneymaking machine.

Alternative agricultural plans could include going forth thruout every remaining USA state and start building indoor veggie gardens, or convert existing empty buildings into indoor gardens. This would also keep the buggy pests and wild animals away, or at an extreme minimum; and it's easier to control the water and soil irrigation systems from severe, outdoor weather, and possibly utilize recycled watering systems especially in hydroponic gardening. Plus, the indoor gardens can be operated year-round, even in the winter months, because it is all indoors and under a *controlled environment*..

Use the examples from Epcott at Disneyworld (in Florida) for vertical farming methods. It's amazing what can be accomplished by using smaller acreage areas, plus, gain the benefits of not dealing with as many outdoor pesticides, which are needed in the greater outdoor crops. Grow the bigger foods outside in soil applicable zones, and the smaller crops indoors using hydroponics and/or vertical farming methods. I'd do it myself for my own family, but don't have the property or finances to do it yet.. Could feed the whole neighborhood too, but not under the current rules/regs of the gov't without a permit to do so.

Uh huh.

President Obama could have given the order to have those indoor gardens built on a grand scale, but focused more on the Middle East war(s), instead of making amazing improvements here on the USA homefront.

You mean he had to deal with the crap he inherited instead?

[garhkal]

Yeah, let's cut funding to schools. Who needs education anyway? China's gonna take the jobs so Americans don't need all that education.

Well if the schools, law enforcement etc, IGNORE federal law, then why shouldn't they lose funding??

Cutting a city's budget.. There's a brilliant idea! What effect do you think that will have?

People will start to leave. Starting with the rich. Businesses will collapse without the money to support them. This plan will turn your cities into ghost towns.

Only a moron would celebrate the destruction of their own country's infrastructure to spite a few people who don't have the right papers to be there.

So we should just turn a blind eye to cities flat out telling the government F U, we won't follow the damn laws.. NANANANNA, you can't do anything about it, so suck off...??

As for the rest of the USA getting agricultural crops from California's "green" basket, whatever veggie crops are grown out there can be replicated in the midwest and east coast.
California is currently in a severe drought with little relief in sight (there are long term *emergency* regulations in place to spare what precious little water is left out there). Their veggie products are coming out with serious signs of drought distress.

And since iirc we have MANY farms in the midlands who don't GROW food, just so we can keep prices down/supply down (can't remember which it is), then THOSE farms can be converted to grow the crops we don't get from ca.. Well except the wine...

They could all go bye-bye, as far as some folks in the mid-west and east coast folks are concerned. Take Chicago, Ill and parts of Michigan with them, too.

If we could move those cities out to the west coast, i say go for it..

Money and Intelligence.

Other than silicone valley, WHAT intelligence?!

Where are you getting your power from?

Since i live in Ohio, no where close to the west coast..

You mean he had to deal with the crap he inherited instead?

That might have flew in his first 4 years, but its near the end of his 8 years. STOP HARKING on that old bone..
And how do you explain his current plans to fund projects for 'cleaner airports' in MEXICO and the mid east?? THAT Wasn't a bloody problem he inherited.. IS IT?

[Falcon Horus]

No kids, so what does it matter?
Climate change, who cares if it is real or not, won't be around to care.

It's a win/win...............

Oh, you put it like that...

That might have flew in his first 4 years, but its near the end of his 8 years. STOP HARKING on that old bone..
And how do you explain his current plans to fund projects for 'cleaner airports' in MEXICO and the mid east?? THAT Wasn't a bloody problem he inherited.. IS IT?

LEt us not forgot how the Republican majority worked against him in the past 4 years.

[Annoyed]

Quote Originally Posted by Annoyed
Why should there have to be any cuts? If these cities behave themselves, they won't see a cut.
If they want to defy the federal govt., there is a cost to that decision and they should be willing to accept that.

Cutting a city's budget.. There's a brilliant idea! What effect do you think that will have?

People will start to leave. Starting with the rich. Businesses will collapse without the money to support them. This plan will turn your cities into ghost towns.

Only a moron would celebrate the destruction of their own country's infrastructure to spite a few people who don't have the right papers to be there.

Then maybe it's not such a good idea for a city to declare itself as a sanctuary city??

If they want to do so anyway, maybe they can tax the illegals to make up for what they don't get from the feds anymore?