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[Gatefan1976]

That doesn't even make sense. In NY at least, the urban areas are overwhelmingly Blue, while the surrounding areas are Red.

It's no secret that in general, people who work and earn a comfortable living are more often Republicans, and they move out of the urban areas as soon as they are able to. The folks in the urban area are mostly the young and lower income folks, both of which lean heavily Democratic.

In fact, that's one of the things the urban school districts are always complaining about; they can't tax the people in the surrounding suburbs and they can't get blood from a stone (the people who live in the urban areas)

I second Jel.

[Annoyed]

What does the working stiffs have to say about the fiscal reform benifiting the rich f***s of 'Murica? It always tumble down to that, doesn't it?

What it looks like to me Annoyed, is that you're getting screwed on both sides. Only the left rather give the money to folks who need it instead of paying a tribute to Jabba the 1%.

If someone earns a lot of money, ( inherits, whatever) be it a business or a person, why do you hold a grudge against him? As long as he obtained it legally, why isn't he entitled to the fruits of his labor or good fortune, which ever it is?

It sounds to be as if you're just jealous, and you want the govt. to confiscate that which is rightfully his to give it out to other people, one way or another.

[Gatefan1976]

If someone earns a lot of money, ( inherits, whatever) be it a business or a person, why do you hold a grudge against him? As long as he obtained it legally, why isn't he entitled to the fruits of his labor or good fortune, which ever it is?

It's not a grudge.

It sounds to be as if you're just jealous, and you want the govt. to confiscate that which is rightfully his to give it out to other people, one way or another.

You are tone deaf.

[Gatefan1976]

I'm that close to calling a lawyer. Certainly GF can appreciate delicacies such as Montreal bacon.

It's not a delicacy, It's an appreciation of things being done well.
Canadian Maple bacon is an option for us, but I appreciate cooking style.

[Chaka-Z0]

If someone earns a lot of money, ( inherits, whatever) be it a business or a person, why do you hold a grudge against him? As long as he obtained it legally, why isn't he entitled to the fruits of his labor or good fortune, which ever it is?

Ninja'd by GF:

It's not a grudge.

I have nothing against rich people in general, they got rich, on their OWN (or small loans of 1M$), they do NOT need the Godvt support to get even richer. But... how did they get rich?

You have two dollars in your pocket and you must give them out. (you can't keep the $$ bc I know you would (lol))

A) You give it to the guy in a Mercedez, which he will probably throw out the window since he doesn't want to keep dirty nasty coins in his car
B) You give it to the low income guy which 2$ can go a long way for him, even if its just for buying a soda for his child or something.

It sounds to be as if you're just jealous, and you want the govt. to confiscate that which is rightfully his to give it out to other people, one way or another.

Lords (rich ppl) pay fealty to the King (Govt) in tributes of gold and silver (taxes). The Lords get their gold off the peasants (us). They collect money out of the people of this country, the you, the me and every consumers that buy their products. Without us, they wouldn't be rich in the first place.

It's only fair the King gives the scraps back to the peasants. The King and the Lords will remain rich all-the-same.

[Gatefan1976]

Annoyed lacks experience, I pointed that out earlier.
Quite simply, he is a 70 odd year old ignorant person who want's to claim experience.

[Annoyed]

Ninja'd by GF:



I have nothing against rich people in general, they got rich, on their OWN (or small loans of 1M$), they do NOT need the Godvt support to get even richer. But... how did they get rich?

Why does that matter?

You have two dollars in your pocket and you must give them out. (you can't keep the $$ bc I know you would (lol))

A) You give it to the guy in a Mercedez, which he will probably throw out the window since he doesn't want to keep dirty nasty coins in his car
B) You give it to the low income guy which 2$ can go a long way for him, even if its just for buying a soda for his child or something.

So, from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.
Somehow, I think I've heard that before.

Lords (rich ppl) pay fealty to the King (Govt) in tributes of gold and silver (taxes). The Lords get their gold off the peasants (us). They collect money out of the people of this country, the you, the me and every consumers that buy their products. Without us, they wouldn't be rich in the first place.

It's only fair the King gives the scraps back to the peasants. The King and the Lords will remain rich all-the-same.

The lords get their money from the peasants because the peasants want something the lords have. No one says the peasant has to give the lords the money. They can do without whatever it is, or produce their own

[Gatefan1976]

Why does that matter?


So, from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.
Somehow, I think I've heard that before.




The lords get their money from the peasants because the peasants want something the lords have. No one says the peasant has to give the lords the money. They can do without whatever it is, or produce their own

Jel, I want bacon now.

[Annoyed]

And another question for the both of you.

Unless you advocate a socialist/communist system, what ever would make you think that any person has any kind of right or claim to the fruits of another person's labor or good fortune?

Haven't you noticed the recurring theme of the current progressive push in this country? "I demand to be given this that or the other thing". Student loans forgiven, Free health care, free this that or the other thing.

That's just theft by way of the govt., plain and simple.

[jelgate]

Then take it, Robin Hood style GF

[Chaka-Z0]

Why does that matter?


So, from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.
Somehow, I think I've heard that before.




The lords get their money from the peasants because the peasants want something the lords have. No one says the peasant has to give the lords the money. They can do without whatever it is, or produce their own

You craft your own electronics, phones, foods and such? You craft your medicine? Everybody should be homesteading?

[Annoyed]

You craft your own electronics, phones, foods and such? You craft your medicine? Everybody should be homesteading?

Nope. But If I want such things, I need to be able to buy them. If I want to eat, I know I have to buy food.

5 days a week, I have to go to a job that I hate, every minute of every day. But I have to do it if I want to eat, have shelter, toys, and such.

What makes anyone else think that I should give up my earnings so that they don't have to do these things?

[jelgate]

You missed Chaka's point entirely to go on one of your uninformed welfare rants

[Chaka-Z0]

What makes anyone else think that I should give up my earnings so that they don't have to do these things?

You missed Chaka's point entirely to go on one of your uninformed welfare rants

^^

Nothing to do with...

And another question for the both of you.

Unless you advocate a socialist/communist system, what ever would make you think that any person has any kind of right or claim to the fruits of another person's labor or good fortune?

[Chaka-Z0]

5 days a week, I have to go to a job that I hate, every minute of every day. But I have to do it if I want to eat, have shelter, toys, and such.

First world problem mate. Poor guy he's got a job but he doesn't like it!

Well guess what mate, some folks would kill to have that job of yours, which might, perhaps, maybe, explain why so many refugees are showing at your doorsteps... bc there's nothing for them down there.

Ultimately, all your argumentsrents revolve back to the same ol' point. You just don't give a sheite.