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Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostSoS emails are fair game.
CF emails are not.
If Hilary sent -government emails-, to -government recievers-, where are their copies of the emails?
Hillary can delete what she wants, it does not change the fact that the .GOV address would still have a copy of everything she sent to .GOV addresses.If Algeria introduced a resolution declaring that the earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would pass by a vote of 164 to 13 with 26 abstentions.- Abba Eban.
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Originally posted by Womble View PostThe copies of those emails would require a Freedom of Information request to be submitted for each and every recipient of those emails. And in order to even begin with that, you would need to know the recipients. And then the bureaucracy to get all of them subpoenaed... not over something they've done but over something someone else has done.
As for the rest, just declare it an issue of national security. That's what people are whinging about, right? she broke national security?
That Patriot act that the US voted in gives wide ranging powers to deal with national security, so your argument amounts to......... nothing.
They don't need subpoena's, they don't need FoI requests, and that's just the "legal problems" thrown in the way that mean jack crap. As for the technical side, No one has yet answered the question I posted almost a month ago, what is a server, and what does it do, just more tap dancing around the basic fact that even educated people like yourself are not sure what a server is or does.
But sure, chuck someone under a bus based on the "informed opinion" of the general population.
Weapon's grade plum's indeed.sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostOK, so you have already folded on the CF emails, excellent.
As for the rest, just declare it an issue of national security. That's what people are whinging about, right? she broke national security?
That Patriot act that the US voted in gives wide ranging powers to deal with national security, so your argument amounts to......... nothing.
They don't need subpoena's, they don't need FoI requests, and that's just the "legal problems" thrown in the way that mean jack crap.
Which Title of the Act do you believe Clinton's email scandal would fall under that would allow this sort of unobstructed investigation?
As for the technical side, No one has yet answered the question I posted almost a month ago, what is a server, and what does it do, just more tap dancing around the basic fact that even educated people like yourself are not sure what a server is or does.
But sure, chuck someone under a bus based on the "informed opinion" of the general population.
Weapon's grade plum's indeed.
I'll humor you. A mail server is a computer that runs MTA (message transfer agent) software to relay emails. How does it help your case exactly?If Algeria introduced a resolution declaring that the earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would pass by a vote of 164 to 13 with 26 abstentions.- Abba Eban.
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Originally posted by Womble View Posthttp://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j393/Storyteller_101/YL017Yw.png
I should print this and stick it to the wall of the ICT department's toilet.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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Originally posted by Womble View Post"Folded"? I believe I explained why your earlier claim was unreasonable.
I don't even know where to start with this piece of utter ignorance so I'll ask you one question.
Which Title of the Act do you believe Clinton's email scandal would fall under that would allow this sort of unobstructed investigation?
I believe people just didn't take your nonsense with the seriousness you ascribed to it.
I'll humor you. A mail server is a computer that runs MTA (message transfer agent) software to relay emails. How does it help your case exactly?
The server (in at least the hardware aspect), or the provider?
Did Hilary "homebrew" her own MTA protocol and inflict it on the government?
She can delete, -hard delete- anything on her private data banks, but any copy sent from her system will still exist on the receiving "server", or even those run by the MTA server.
But sure, be a teaspoon.sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Freedom of Information Act pertains to citizens getting information from the government for the sake of transparency. For example, if I knew that the police had data on arrests to trace trends and I ask for it, they can't deny it because of FoI. The government doesn't need FoI...I'm confused on that part between Gatefan and Womble...what are you both on about?
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Originally posted by aretood2 View PostThe latest CNN poll shows Trump loosing.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058...and-Affidavits
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Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostNot at all.
50 USC 1861 and the expansions granted under the patriot act.
(1) Subject to paragraph (3), the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation or a designee of the Director (whose rank shall be no lower than Assistant Special Agent in Charge) may make an application for an order requiring the production of any tangible things (including books, records, papers, documents, and other items) for an investigation to obtain foreign intelligence information not concerning a United States person or to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities, provided that such investigation of a United States person is not conducted solely upon the basis of activities protected by the first amendment to the Constitution.
Where would it fall under- investigation not concerning a US person, investigation of international terrorism, or of clandestine intelligence activities?
Who owns MTA's Womble?
The server (in at least the hardware aspect), or the provider?
Did Hilary "homebrew" her own MTA protocol and inflict it on the government?
She can delete, -hard delete- anything on her private data banks, but any copy sent from her system will still exist on the receiving "server", or even those run by the MTA server.
But sure, be a teaspoon.
Her server communicated with God only knows how many receiving servers. If you want to collect someone's emails, you don't go making lists of all the people they have ever emailed (and how would you go about it without previously obtaining a list of her outgoing emails and addresses they were sent to)? You go to the server from which they were sent. Once Clinton's server has been wiped (VERY thoroughly wiped including being overwritten with junk data), how do you even know which receiving servers to search?
It's the single most stupid objection to any argument you've fielded in any Gateworld discussion so far.If Algeria introduced a resolution declaring that the earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would pass by a vote of 164 to 13 with 26 abstentions.- Abba Eban.
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