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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Postyou'd rather have BP, Mobil, Texaco or Exxon do it?
Originally posted by Annoyed View PostAnd of course, you yourself don't consume any oil based products, or use any energy derived from oil, right?
And yes, I admit to being a Greenpeace supporter. Though not as green a person as I probably could be, but I try my best.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Postany viable alternatives to propose?
Renewable energy - a list!Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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Mmm... okay, here you go...
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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostNo, but if you use oil products, isn't it being hypocritical to object to getting the oil in the first place?
should everyone also stop criticizing the banking system because a bank account is compulsory
etc.
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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Postthen isn't it being hypocritical to call people out on using oil products when they've no choice?
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There is no other choice at this time.
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I don't know how you pulled the issues with banks into this, but it wasn't central to our discussion, so I didn't respond to it.
My point is that people who use oil based energy and products shouldn't be advocating limits upon how oil is obtained; if limits are placed upon drilling, fracking, etc. obviously the amount available will decrease. So you are advocating mandatory reductions in use.
But if you yourself are fine with your own use of oil products and energy, you must be expecting others to cease their use. If you feel that oil use should be stopped or limited, shouldn't it begin with you, yourself?
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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostMy point is that people who use oil based energy and products shouldn't be advocating limits upon how oil is obtained; if limits are placed upon drilling, fracking, etc. obviously the amount available will decrease. So you are advocating mandatory reductions in use.
Call me a hypocrite all you like, but I would like to live in a clean environment and every bit helps to make it so. Baby steps going forward. Allowing Shell to drill up north is taking steps back.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostI don't know how you pulled the issues with banks into this, but it wasn't central to our discussion, so I didn't respond to it.My point is that people who use oil based energy and products shouldn't be advocating limits upon how oil is obtained; if limits are placed upon drilling, fracking, etc. obviously the amount available will decrease. So you are advocating mandatory reductions in use.
and they have to because there's no alternative
and there's no alternative because the corporates decided so
and the corporates decided so because...wait, it ends with them. so they're the ones responsible. and yet they shouldn't be criticized?But if you yourself are fine with your own use of oil products and energyyou must be expecting others to cease their use.
basically I expect an end to this "monopoly"
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Never seen a Tesla car, I reckon...Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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