The Political Discussion Thread

[Gatefan1976]

I just think the South should secede so that the North has the ability to move on rather than be held back by Jesusland.

Dude
The South *DID* try to Secede...............

[lordofseas]

Dude
The South *DID* try to Secede...............

I know. If at first you don't secede...

[Gatefan1976]

I know. If at first you don't secede...

Dammit!!
Mental Green

[lordofseas]

Dammit!!
Mental Green

For LOS is most awesome.

[SoulReaver]

Oh Malarky. Corporations have as much to lose by people cutting off the crack pipe as the est of us. In theory. I mean we gain liberty, freedom, and balance budgets, but lose our stipends and free government education!

when mice & elephants go through a food shortage mice tend to die first :/

[Gatefan1976]

when mice & elephants go through a food shortage mice tend to die first :/

DAMMIT!!!
More mental green for the soulreaver
(Mice and elephants *May* not be the best analergy here however........... )

[LtColCarter]

Wanna make a statement?
businesses and individuals who believe in "freedom to be legaly recognized as partners irrelavent of gender" should just leave NC.
Remove thier money, thier numbers, and thier support from the state.
I believe religions *should* be able to withhold thier "ceromonies and blessings" if they choose to, I also believe that if you don't agree, you should have the freedom to go elsewhere, a bit like a "rainbow Mayflower".

I do see your point, but it is problematic. Homes have to be sold, families divided, jobs lost, etc. If it were only as simple as making a move.

[DigiFluid]

Charming, NC, charming. Constitutions and their Amendments are supposed to protect rights, not deny them, you morons.

Congratulations on catching up with the social mores of 70 years ago. I hope every freedom-loving NC resident leaves you to rot--it's what you deserve.

[Womble]

when mice & elephants go through a food shortage mice tend to die first :/

That's actually not true. Elephants die first, then mice (who can survive on less). And cockroaches survive the longest.

[Col.Foley]

I hope it goes absolutely wonderfully for them.

I see....

Failing royally...I don't see how states can pass laws which are clear violations of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution. Last time I checked...the Constitution was supposed to be the SUPREME law of the land...

And the Constitution allows for state's rights for state's to make their own laws.

Wanna make a statement?
businesses and individuals who believe in "freedom to be legaly recognized as partners irrelavent of gender" should just leave NC.
Remove thier money, thier numbers, and thier support from the state.
I believe religions *should* be able to withhold thier "ceromonies and blessings" if they choose to, I also believe that if you don't agree, you should have the freedom to go elsewhere, a bit like a "rainbow Mayflower".

I do see your point, but it is problematic. Homes have to be sold, families divided, jobs lost, etc. If it were only as simple as making a move.

I wonder whosse fault that is? The Governments? We all make our choices and if your choice is to chose family over moral consious then so be it.

Charming, NC, charming. Constitutions and their Amendments are supposed to protect rights, not deny them, you morons.

Congratulations on catching up with the social mores of 70 years ago. I hope every freedom-loving NC resident leaves you to rot--it's what you deserve.

Actually you are absolutly right, rights have been denied here. The rights of the churches to marry whom they would, or whom they would not want to marry. Now churches are told by Government 'you can't marry those people.'

That's actually not true. Elephants die first, then mice (who can survive on less). And cockroaches survive the longest.

I knew that was a silly analogy...

[LtColCarter]

And the Constitution allows for state's rights for state's to make their own laws.

I wonder whosse fault that is? The Governments? We all make our choices and if your choice is to chose family over moral consious then so be it.

However, a state law does not override the US Constitution. And the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution clearly states that no state shall pass a law which abridges the rights of its citizens.

I think you misunderstood my comment. I said it was problematic because people cannot just pick up and move. I know I wouldn't move anywhere without a job lined up and waiting for me. In addition, I'd want to make sure my house was ready and on the market so I wouldn't have to attempt to afford to pay two mortgages until my old house sold. As for family, my family is extremely important to me. I hate Texas, yet I stay in this god aweful place because I do have my parents here. I moved away from family once, and that was the wrong decision. And why should any state law force someone to move? Our country is founded on rebellion...so I would say its a time to get a little rebellious!

Even President Obama say that gay and lesbians should have the right to marry...He was on CNN today.

[SoulReaver]

That's actually not true. Elephants die first, then mice (who can survive on less). And cockroaches survive the longest.

nope, mice endure without food far less than elephants courtesy of a greater surface/volume ratio thus greater heat loss. this is why a huge mammal can last for months thanks to a slow metabolism whereas a tiny mammal will only last days for a metabolism which is basically on overdrive, ie. Jerry may need say 100x less food than Dumbo but will use it up 10000x faster
likewise if we're to compare small roaches to large ones

or long story short, it is true

Spoiler:

survival of the species may be another matter, if that's what you meant. mice breed a lot faster & have an edge in this respect

I knew that was a silly analogy...

1) it was an awesome one
2) you should've known better

[lordofseas]

If both mice and elephant were to be deprived of food, but had access to water, the mice would die first, lasting up to 4 days at most, while the elephant would survive a week. If deprived of water, the elephant would die first, after 24 hours, while mice would still only live up to 4 days.

[SoulReaver]

If both mice and elephant were to be deprived of food, but had access to water, the mice would die first, lasting up to 4 days at most, while the elephant would survive a week.

should be a lot longer since humans can last 18 days (world record)

[Gatefan1976]

I do see your point, but it is problematic. Homes have to be sold, families divided, jobs lost, etc. If it were only as simple as making a move.

Imagine how problematic it would be out here where our states are massive..............
(Except for the A.C.T, but no one cares about the A.C.T)