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[Gatefan1976]

[Gatefan1976]

Presidential notes"
https://www.malaymail.com/news/world...chment/1811911

[Annoyed]

OK, have Pence.
EDIT:
As for your "strikethrough", you even KNOW he is less full of BS.
You KNOW he (trump) is full of it.
Yet you defend him?
You are HAPPY that the senate probably will not vote guilty?
Party over people, just like EC over people, right?
That's the system.
Impeachment is the system as well, but now it's not fair?



This is pure conjecture. trump isn't being investigated for "being trump", he's being investigated for performing illegal actions.
Doesn't that matter anymore?
I NEVER asked for Bush 2 to be investigated, no matter how much I disagreed with his policies, nor would I ask for Pence to be investigated because my disagreement is a purely political position, NOT a criminal one.
My objection to trump is NOT political, it's LEGAL.

It's a war for the country's future. The Democrats want to lead us down a path that will surely result in the destruction of the US as it is now.
We are not a socialist nation, and we don't want to be one. There has never been a socialist nation that has been the equal of the United States. The idea doesn't work.

Sure, right now, the claims are that only the rich will pay for free shiznit for everyone. But that can't work. Continuing down their path leads to inevitable failure, and an authoritarian govt which will take many lives to overthrow.

[Gatefan1976]

It's a war for the country's future. The Democrats want to lead us down a path that will surely result in the destruction of the US as it is now.

Conjecture

We are not a socialist nation, and we don't want to be one.

Who is "we"

There has never been a socialist nation that has been the equal of the United States. The idea doesn't work.

Rome, as a republic was your better, and it had socialism, and that was 2K years ago.
It went downhill when it become a imperial dictatorship.

Sure, right now, the claims are that only the rich will pay for free shiznit for everyone. But that can't work. Continuing down their path leads to inevitable failure, and an authoritarian govt which will take many lives to overthrow.

This is why I don't subscribe to parties.
Continuing down the path of capitalism will, or has lead you to failure (you have trump) who claims "absolute authority" on everything he does not like.
Fusion governments are the future, they are even the past.
But this is a mere distraction.
Address what is said, or shut up.

[Annoyed]

And, in another example of fine, unbiased reporting....

When the villain is Obama, not Trump, news suddenly becomes not worth reporting

So the United States has “the world’s highest rate of children in detention.” Is this worth reporting? Maybe, maybe not. Nevertheless, Agence France-Presse, or AFP, and Reuters did report it, attributing the information to a “United Nations study” on migrant children detained at the US-Mexico border.

Then the two agencies retracted the story. Deleted, withdrew, demolished. If they could have used one of those Men in Black memory-zappers on us, they would have. Sheepishly, the two news organizations explained that, you see, the UN data was from 2015 — part of a border crackdown that had begun years earlier.

We all know who the president was in 2015. It wasn’t evil, child-caging monster President Trump. It was that nice, compassionate, child-caging monster President Barack Obama.

Zap. The story made Obama look bad. Hence the story was removed. Not updated or corrected, removed.

[Gatefan1976]

what a load of ****, no wonder you believe it. Obama was never "perfect", he worked within the system as given.

SAD

[SoulReaver]

being trump

performing illegal actions.

same thing

[SoulReaver]

The Democrats want to lead us down a path that will surely result in the destruction of the US as it is now.

as it is now? fine by me

Continuing down their path leads to inevitable failure, and an authoritarian govt which will take many lives to overthrow.

you're already there

And, in another example of fine, unbiased reporting....

When the villain is Obama, not Trump, news suddenly becomes not worth reporting

so are the trumpets for or against a tough immigration stance? make up ur damn minds

[Annoyed]

so are the trumpets for or against a tough immigration stance? make up ur damn minds

You missed the point of the post, which was to illustrate the bias of the media. It's newsworthy of Trump did it, but when they realize it was Obama that did it, it's not worth publishing.

[Gatefan1976]

You missed the point of the post, which was to illustrate the bias of the media. It's newsworthy of Trump did it, but when they realize it was Obama that did it, it's not worth publishing.

Obama was well known as the deporter in chief, he deported more people than any other president.
Perhaps the bias is not on the side you believe it is?

[Annoyed]

Obama was well known as the deporter in chief, he deported more people than any other president.
Perhaps the bias is not on the side you believe it is?

Deportation of illegals is a good thing. I've said many times that proper "immigration reform" starts with rounding up every detectable illegal and throwing them out. No BS no excuses.

But we also have to stop the continuing incoming hordes. Obama and the Democrats don't seem to want to do that. Particularly the Democrats.

[Gatefan1976]

Deportation of illegals is a good thing. I've said many times that proper "immigration reform" starts with rounding up every detectable illegal and throwing them out. No BS no excuses.

But we also have to stop the continuing incoming hordes. Obama and the Democrats don't seem to want to do that. Particularly the Democrats.

You are changing the topic because what you posted was BS.
I thought you were after bias in the media, you said that was your point. It was well known that Obama deported millions of people, it was no secret, not hidden, and not "not reported on". Now, you want to talk about reform. Perhaps because of the BAIS of what you personally watch or read, it is THEY that did not want to report on Obama's efforts to remove illegal immigrants, because that would give him some standing on the issue. Saying that Obama kicked millions of people out would run contrary to right wing notions and talking points of Obama giving everyone a pass.
Why would right wing media report that?
So, who here is actually biased?
The mainstream media who DID report it (who, according to you would never do it), or the right wing media who WANTED the deportations, but didn't want to give Obama any credit for anything?

[Gatefan1976]

[Annoyed]

You are changing the topic because what you posted was BS.
I thought you were after bias in the media, you said that was your point. It was well known that Obama deported millions of people, it was no secret, not hidden, and not "not reported on". Now, you want to talk about reform. Perhaps because of the BAIS of what you personally watch or read, it is THEY that did not want to report on Obama's efforts to remove illegal immigrants, because that would give him some standing on the issue. Saying that Obama kicked millions of people out would run contrary to right wing notions and talking points of Obama giving everyone a pass.
Why would right wing media report that?
So, who here is actually biased?
The mainstream media who DID report it (who, according to you would never do it), or the right wing media who WANTED the deportations, but didn't want to give Obama any credit for anything?

You questioned which side was for strong immigration / border control. Look at what the Democrats want; open borders, amnesty or "path to citizenship" crap.
Yes, there is a sizable subset of those on the right that want loose borders too, businesses and others that employ them.

But look what Trump is trying, the wall, something that would be effective. The left opposes every step he takes.

It's pretty obvious whose chips are where on the board.

But none of that explains the biased publishing. What's your excuse for that?

[SoulReaver]

the wall, something that would be effective

here we go again

trying to reason with Trumpets is like talking to a wall (very effective wall this one)