The Political Discussion Thread

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

Never mind the legalities for a minute.

If somebody is stupid enough to deliberately place their body in the path of a 2+ thousand Lb motor vehicle for any reason, I really don't care what happens to him. Hopefully it happens before he has a chance to reproduce and pass those genes on.

Everyone! Annoyed is "Pro-Life".

And arguing for the right to kill with his car.

If a car is speeding through a crossing. Or mounts the pavement. Or drives through a shop window. Those are all covered too, because "accidents" happen.

The soft, squishy human will always be at fault if this passes. The two thousand pound metal box propelled by explosions has more rights than a living person.

Again. Pro-Life.

[Ian-S]

Bill to legalise vehicular manslaughter

Progress?

Thanks for proving my point that "progress", "new" and "improvement" are not always the same thing.

No I didn't know that Trump's new bedfellows were worth the same as the bottom 35% of the population, nor though am I surprised, to play devils advocate, Trump only promised to "remove the political elite / politically corrupt" from those positions (aka drain the swamp), he never said who he would replace them with so technically he hasn't been dishonest over it

[Gatefan1976]

Thanks for proving my point that "progress", "new" and "improvement" are not always the same thing.

I wouldn't call it progress, more regressive.

No I didn't know that Trump's new bedfellows were worth the same as the bottom 35% of the population, nor though am I surprised, to play devils advocate, Trump only promised to "remove the political elite / politically corrupt" from those positions (aka drain the swamp), he never said who he would replace them with so technically he hasn't been dishonest over it

You are quite right, he didn't say what he would replace them with, he merely heavily implied that they would be for the people.
Guess the people are just S.O.L.

[Gatefan1976]

Everyone! Annoyed is "Pro-Life".

And arguing for the right to kill with his car.

If a car is speeding through a crossing. Or mounts the pavement. Or drives through a shop window. Those are all covered too, because "accidents" happen.

The soft, squishy human will always be at fault if this passes. The two thousand pound metal box propelled by explosions has more rights than a living person.

Again. Pro-Life.

But what if he hits a pregnant woman?
Oh the moral dilemma!!

[Falcon Horus]

apples to oranges again I see

Something is orange alright.

so when someone in a vehicle hits a person you automatically assume it was pre-meditated, automatically assume that the driver woke up that morning like "oh I think I'll flatten an idiot today eh? so how's that sad little "guilty until proven innocent" world working out for you?

In regards to the bill, which allows for vehicular manslaughter if the target is in the way of the vehicle. However, the vehicle is not in control of its actions. There's a driver behind the wheel, who makes the choice to drive through a protest, committing vehical manslaughter in the worst case scenario. In other scenarios, they are "deliberately" forcing themselves through a blockade, hurting protesters in the process. That is a conscious choice.

People who block emergency vehicles, and first responders, should be arrested and be held accountable for their obstructions (which could endanger lives).

and you still fail to see that there's a big difference between killing someone in self-defense and a cold-blooded murder...it seems to me that if you had your way everyone who's attacked would be required to just sit there and take it and not fight back

There's no difference -- the end result is death, in both cases.

The difference, self-defense can either run or fight if there's no way to run (or hide). Cold-blooded killer makes the choice to kill and usually enjoy a good killing. Crimes of passion and opportunity are different murderous categories than the CBK -- but killer nonetheless.

However, when you decide to take your vehicle through a protesting group, that's not self-defense. Your life isn't in immediate danger from the protesters outside your vehicle. And a car is still a lot faster than runners so turn around or drive past them, and hightail it out.

That's manslaughter (if anyone should come to pass).

How would that be protected? If you note the word "accidentally" is written into the bill. Driving a truck into a crowd is no accident.

Proof it.

If somebody is stupid enough to deliberately place their body in the path of a 2 thousand+ Lb motor vehicle for any reason, I really don't care what happens to him. Hopefully it happens before he has a chance to reproduce and pass those genes on.

Oh dear, abortions better not be outlawed then.

But what if he hits a pregnant woman?
Oh the moral dilemma!!

She's in front of the car -- pregnancy be damned.

In other news...
It's now legal in Mississippi to discriminate against LGBT on religious and moral grounds.

Edit: Correction, it was legal. Federal judge struck it down. It apparently was signed into law in April 2016, and struck down over the summer.

[Annoyed]

Everyone! Annoyed is "Pro-Life".

And arguing for the right to kill with his car.

If a car is speeding through a crossing. Or mounts the pavement. Or drives through a shop window. Those are all covered too, because "accidents" happen.

The soft, squishy human will always be at fault if this passes. The two thousand pound metal box propelled by explosions has more rights than a living person.

And more brains than any soft squishy thing that walks in front of it, too.

[jelgate]

*run over Annoyed with car*

Where is my medal?

[Gatefan1976]

*pins a medal on Jel's chest*

[Coco Pops]

So the USA wants to build a border wall.

Logically shouldn't the USA pay for that wall?

Why should anyone else pay for the wall?

Lazy people pay for your own wall.

[SoulReaver]

another update on the 1st amendment (what's left of it)

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/b...ews-media.html

herr Goeb(bannon)els has spoken und he is absolutely right, ja!

[Gatefan1976]

Yeah, the media should just shut up. Interesting approach for him to take

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

Trump is now calling the wall 'The Great Wall'

The Great Wall of Trump sounds even less appealing when trump means fart where you live....

[Gatefan1976]

Snort

[Ian-S]

I'm sure there some ironic antidote there to telling the media to shut up in one sentence then telling them to quote you in the next....

[Gatefan1976]

Antidote??
Quick Ian-S has been poisoned!!