The Political Discussion Thread

[Ian-S]

Being highly skilled in one particular subject doesn't mean you are highly skilled in everything, I used to know a fantastic surgeon who I'd trust to operate on me without a second though.

But I wouldn't trust him to wire a plug up, not if you valued whatever was on the other end of the cable.

[garhkal]

So the Republicans want to make the USA into a theocracy......

I mean a national religion? Geez.

As long as we are making it the worship of the all mighty cthullu, i am ok with it!

There is more than enough, hell, I've -posted it- here from his own mouth.

His statements don't equal evidence. Legally at least. Just like if i said "Hey ya'll, i just gutted someone".. Unless you could find actual evidence i DID that, its not proof i killed anyone.. Just that i like saying stuff.

http://americasvoice.org/trumphatemap/

SO you equate someone shouting to kids "go home spiks", or someone scrawling on a wall "Trump rules" to getting beaten up....?

I get that frustration, but at the same time she's hardly unique in this situation. She's just the most visible example of the rich and powerful getting away with things. So why should she be the exception? The answer is political motives. That's why people want her to be the exception, and that is political persecution. The Thought Police aren't too far behind that slippery slope.

BUT would she be getting away with it if she WASN'T rich and powerful??

[Falcon Horus]

For the record, SGalisa, when you hit reply to thread, there's an icon in the top bar, the one where you can pick all the colors of the rainbow, font, and the likes, which is specifically designated to embed videos into your reply. Youtube videos have embed-codes.

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Being highly skilled in one particular subject doesn't mean you are highly skilled in everything, I used to know a fantastic surgeon who I'd trust to operate on me without a second though.

There's still a problematic difference between being highly skilled, say a neurosurgeon who had to memorize every part of the brain and how to perform surgery, and thinking that the pyramids were granaries for a bible figure.

But I wouldn't trust him to wire a plug up, not if you valued whatever was on the other end of the cable.

That's something you learn, either in school or DIY and get electrocuted at least a couple times.

I don't know where he pulled the pyramid-idea from but it's head!desk worthy.

Nevermind, found it where he got the idea from:

10 Bizarre Theories About The Pyramids That DON'T Involve Aliens

Medieval Europeans believed the pyramids were granaries described in the Old Testament. Egypt's pharaoh was disturbed by dreams in which seven lean cows devoured seven fat cows and seven withered ears of grain consumed seven healthy ones. Joseph interpreted the dreams to mean that there would be seven years of abundance in Egypt followed by seven years of famine. He advised pharaoh to begin storing surplus grain.

The description of the pyramids as "Joseph's Granaries" stretches as far back as the sixth century, when they were identified as such by Gregory of Tours in his History of the Franks.

[Annoyed]

There *is* a reason for that. It's known as stalling for time. Maybe just words or maybe a ruse.. wild goose chase..
Basic problem is that TPTB in the current Obama Admin are and will continue to block or have actively stonewalled any further investigation into the data on Huma's ex-hubby's additional emails. Same probably applies to the investigations with the "Clinton Foundation". Until the new Admin is in complete power control, basically *nothing* can be Effectively done. Current Obama Admin won't allow it--they've said so in various ways, so don't underestimate them, even after they leave their "official" Obama Admin, etc. offices. Too many dots connected to other dots that .. well, that's basically confidential info -- not for us nobodies to know about *yet*.

Once the investigations are allowed to go into full force and ALL of the dots connected, well, then the world might have a reason to *sigh*.. but it will probably be more of a shocked *sigh* at what details get exposed into the light than what has been hidden in the darkness all this time prior.

Those in the know and even those not yet filled in on what is involved, can only hope for the best, and keep hoping in the meantime that the appropriate measures will be taken. What happens after, well, then it will be the hand of justice or injustice at work. Depends on which forces of good vs. evil will have the upper hand of control.

You have a good point there. This might be a ruse.
If Trump continues to say he's gonna go after Clinton, the LSoS will be under fantastic pressure to grant her a pardon, which, if I were him, I would not be so keen to do, since it will permanently stain the legacy of his time in office.
If, on the other hand, Trump says he's going to let it go, the pressure won't be so great, and there might not be a pardon.
Then, Jan. 21, after the LSoS is relegated to the dustbin of history, he can announce that he is re-opening the investigation(s). Smart move, if that is what he is doing.

[SGalisa]

For the record, SGalisa, when you hit reply to thread, there's an icon in the top bar, the one where you can pick all the colors of the rainbow, font, and the likes, which is specifically designated to embed videos into your reply. Youtube videos have embed-codes.

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Thanks for the "how to" instructions, FH..!

I fixed the video link. It should (hopefully) work now.

You have a good point there. This might be a ruse.
If Trump continues to say he's gonna go after Clinton, the LSoS will be under fantastic pressure to grant her a pardon, which, if I were him, I would not be so keen to do, since it will permanently stain the legacy of his time in office.
If, on the other hand, Trump says he's going to let it go, the pressure won't be so great, and there might not be a pardon.
Then, Jan. 21, after the LSoS is relegated to the dustbin of history, he can announce that he is re-opening the investigation(s). Smart move, if that is what he is doing.

Yep. *smart move* .. however, I would suggest to NOT announce anything about going forward with anything about that. Too many lives might be at risk, if publicly spoken.

Annoyed--Please check your PM later.. I need to say something off-off topic from here.

[SoulReaver]

A neurosurgeon, specialized in children if I'm not mistaken.

I pity whoever entrusted their kids to his scalpel (I reckon they're the ones who grew up to be the Trump voters)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nx9Ohdp5ZY

and Hitler also had jews working for him, what's your point?

[Gatefan1976]

A moron who is a well world renowned brain surgeon? Give me a break. Cardiothoracic and neuro surgeons are one of the most educated medical professionals. It's a pretty elite club. Sure, I wouldn't trust anything he writes regarding archeology, but to dismiss him as a moron is pretty idiotic to begin with.

Yes tood, you can have highly skilled and educated morons. Perhaps not moron in the dictionary defined terminology, but in the vernacular, for sure.

[Gatefan1976]

His statements don't equal evidence. Legally at least. Just like if i said "Hey ya'll, i just gutted someone".. Unless you could find actual evidence i DID that, its not proof i killed anyone.. Just that i like saying stuff.

Legally?
Ok, -legally- Hillary has been investigated multiple times and each case leads nowhere, further investigations would be deemed in legal circles as a "witch hunt". They had their chance to prove her criminality multiple times and in each case, they failed to. Hillary lost many supporters based on the libellous notion of her criminality, a case Trump persecuted in the court of public opinion. Saying "she deserved it", or "there is proof still to be found" gets your case kicked out of court. If your argument is that words are less than deeds, emails are no more than words as well. You can't have it both ways Garkhal, either use the legal argument, or use the emotional one, but apply it evenly.

SO you equate someone shouting to kids "go home spiks", or someone scrawling on a wall "Trump rules" to getting beaten up....?

No, I don't, I provided that to show you an emerging pattern of behaviour.

BUT would she be getting away with it if she WASN'T rich and powerful??

When you are rich, you can do anything, grab 'em by the pussy.

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

Yes tood, you can have highly skilled and educated morons. Perhaps not moron in the dictionary defined terminology, but in the vernacular, for sure.

Highly skilled and educated to work in one extremely specialised field. But those skills don't necessarily transfer out of that field. Carson is a skilled surgeon. That's not in doubt. But he doesn't know anything about politics, or history. Or where the Ancient Egyptians stored their grain..

[jelgate]

Its in the Nile River

[pookey]

Jel is correct

[Gatefan1976]

Highly skilled and education to work in one extremely specialised field. But those skills don't necessarily transfer out of that field. Carson is a skilled surgeon. That's not in doubt. But he doesn't know anything about politics, or history. Or where the Ancient Egyptians stored their grain..

But he has a portrait of himself with Jesus, what more does he need to educate people??

[jelgate]

Aren't I always?

[SGalisa]

and Hitler also had jews working for him, what's your point?

If you watched the video, then you'd know what has been happening to our USA for the past 8 years (corruption running wild), and maybe more.
Cannot share anything beyond that. You wouldn't understand anyway,
so it would be kind of pointless to try to explain.


BTW, SoulReaver, just out of curiosity -- you're not in nor from the USA (nor American)? ..because it doesn't sound like it based on your replies. If not, I just find that part fascinating in how non-Americans are so worried about who's controlling our gov't and land, etc.

[Gatefan1976]

If you watched the video, then you'd know what has been happening to our USA for the past 8 years (corruption running wild), and maybe more.
Cannot share anything beyond that. You wouldn't understand anyway,
so it would be kind of pointless to try to explain.

I watched it, what she is talking about has been happening for decades, not 8 years.
I'd try to explain it to you but it would be kind of pointless.

BTW, SoulReaver, just out of curiosity -- you're not in nor from the USA (nor American)? ..because it doesn't sound like it based on your replies. If not, I just find that part fascinating in how non-Americans are so worried about who's controlling our gov't and land, etc.

Because what happens in the US affects the rest of the western world? You know, what people have been saying since they started commenting on the US election........

EDIT:
A story:
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/29584...-nato-pullback

Is this what you see from that story SGalisa?