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The Dallas PD Chief says it's hard to do their job when everybody gets to carry their weapon so openly. It makes it harder to figure out who are the bad guys; which he elaborated on by saying that in the mars there were open carriers which confused the police and the people - hence why they thought there were multiple shooters instead of just the one.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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Originally posted by garhkal View PostThen why is it quite a few of those rioters who DID get arrested, got released with no charges? Why is it several of those who did the arson in St Louis and Baltimore, we have not even heard of IF they went to court or not??
I don't know. It could be anything from lack of evidence to charges not being reported. Or you're simply assuming as much and don't have anything concrete to back it up. First I've heard of this.
My point though is that they seem to be making it ot to seem that the COPS are just GUNNING For them only.. When their # of deaths by cop are a lot less than whites, which is also a HELL of a lot less than # of deaths caused by their OWN kind..
Learn to discriminate different voices in one group. All you do is hear people horrible things and then apply it to everyone else remotely similar yet you don't hold people with some similar views as yours to the same standard. Don't use violent individuals to shut up those who are not violent. That's no different than liberals shouting "white privilege" to shut you up.
Then why didn't we see any rioting/looting and arson during the Occupy wall street protests? Or at all the protests of abortion clinics?? We have seen some rioting at Trump conventions, but that is also supported by BLM and the other agitators, like Sorous and alinsky.
But there was rioting and looting. Not to mention all the green peace protests in Seattle in the 90's. You're either being willfully ignorant, ingeniously deceptive, or not looking hard enough...or just making blind assumptions. The question is, why doesn't the media cover those acts of looting and rioting with the same ferocity as they do when black people do it?
Originally posted by SoulReaver View Posta newcop on the blockblock on the cop can contribute to lower taxes
paramedics & firefighters not having any special privileges or powerful unions to protect them, chances are they'll be fired on the spot
ah but class isn't necessarily about wealth (though the ss do get well paid - state & federal ones at least - not to mention a generous health insurance, in a country where decent healthcare is a luxury don't forget, all on taxpayers' $)
So they're bad because they have healthcare? Paramedics and firefighters also have health insurance...and unions. They tend to have the same if not similar healthcare packages as teachers, nurses (Public hospitals), and police officers do. As for wealth and class, how exactly are Hispanics in an upper class than blacks?
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostThe Dallas PD Chief says it's hard to do their job when everybody gets to carry their weapon so openly. It makes it harder to figure out who are the bad guys; which he elaborated on by saying that in the mars there were open carriers which confused the police and the people - hence why they thought there were multiple shooters instead of just the one.
In a movie theater Gunman starts shooting. Armed Citizen 1 fires back. Armed Citizen 2 doesn't see the Gunman when the shooting starts, but sees Citizen 1 so Citizen 2 shoots Citizen 1. Citizen 3 saw the Gunman and that Citizen 1 defended the people only to be attacked by Citizen 2, so now Citizen 3 assumes that Citizen 2 is an accomplice to the Gunman and shoots Citizen 2. Now Citizen 4 has to decide who's friendly and who's not and shoot. Also, bullets that miss tend to hit others, that's called crossfire.
The police arrive, and not they have to decide who's who.
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Originally posted by aretood2 View PostSo they're bad because they have healthcare?Paramedics and firefighters also have health insurance...
and unions.
As for wealth and class, how exactly are Hispanics in an upper class than blacks?
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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Postjust one of their many perks. keep upat least they're not above the law & the DA ain't their b*tch
not powerful ones, irrelevant
why that question? I was talking about power
Okay then, then how do Hispanics have more power than black people? You keep moving the goal posts and changing the terms each time I corner you with a question like this. And how do you know which unions have more power than others? How do you measure this union power? How do you know of the relationship with teh DA's? What do you know about it? You didn't even know simple aspects of our electoral college and their ramifications yet claim to have some sort of superior knowledge of the inner workings of the American legal system.
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Originally posted by aretood2 View PostOkay then, then how do Hispanics have more power than black people?
You keep moving the goal posts and changing the terms each time I corner you with a question like this.
you don't just move goalposts you create them. you're the one asking questions out of the blue lol (btw why the sudden interest in hispanics)
And how do you know which unions have more power than others? How do you measure this union power?
How do you know of the relationship with teh DA's?
now you're being as disingenuous as the Trump supporters here
You didn't even know simple aspects of our electoral college
and their ramifications yet claim to have some sort of superior knowledge of the inner workings of the American legal system.
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ho and I like this one:Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostThe Dallas PD Chief says it's hard to do their job when everybody gets to carry their weapon so openly. It makes it harder to figure out who are the bad guys; which he elaborated on by saying that in the mars there were open carriers which confused the police and the people - hence why they thought there were multiple shooters instead of just the one.Originally posted by aretood2 View PostIn a movie theater Gunman starts shooting. Armed Citizen 1 fires back. Armed Citizen 2 doesn't see the Gunman when the shooting starts, but sees Citizen 1 so Citizen 2 shoots Citizen 1. Citizen 3 saw the Gunman and that Citizen 1 defended the people only to be attacked by Citizen 2, so now Citizen 3 assumes that Citizen 2 is an accomplice to the Gunman and shoots Citizen 2. Now Citizen 4 has to decide who's friendly and who's not and shoot. Also, bullets that miss tend to hit others, that's called crossfire.
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Originally posted by aretood2 View Post[COLOR="#000080"]Let me run a scenario here:
In a movie theater Gunman starts shooting. Armed Citizen 1 fires back. Armed Citizen 2 doesn't see the Gunman when the shooting starts, but sees Citizen 1 so Citizen 2 shoots Citizen 1. Citizen 3 saw the Gunman and that Citizen 1 defended the people only to be attacked by Citizen 2, so now Citizen 3 assumes that Citizen 2 is an accomplice to the Gunman and shoots Citizen 2. Now Citizen 4 has to decide who's friendly and who's not and shoot. Also, bullets that miss tend to hit others, that's called crossfire.
The police arrive, and not they have to decide who's who.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
Proper Stargate Rewatch -- season 10 of SG-1
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Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostGarhkal and/or Annoyed would say: "Shoot them all."
Seriously, a legal and responsible gun owner *should* ensure that he understands the situation before drawing a weapon at all.
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Originally posted by Annoyed View Posta legal and responsible gun ownerLast edited by SoulReaver; 13 July 2016, 05:44 PM.
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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Postho and I like this one:so...wasn't it one of the conservatives here (don't remember if it was Aretood or one of the others) who claimed that local police tend to support your 2nd amendment? yet here we have a good counter-example
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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostWhat I said was that county and rural police (who have to face the voters directly) usually favor private ownership of firearms, while the police in larger urban areas who are often appointed by the Democratic city administrations are opposed.
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