The Political Discussion Thread

[SoulReaver]

So the indiscriminate murder of cops is okay?

cartesian logic 101 fail

only of those guilty

Spoiler:

hoho! wait one - you know they always support each other no matter what crime their comrades committed right? this sort of omerta is a known thing in the US

[Annoyed]

SR, as far as I can tell, you just hate cops, or any sort of authority figure.

I do not support nor condone police killing citizens without proper cause, and by no means am I trying to excuse the police, but you don't even seem to take the situation into consideration.
With you it's always "shooting at / killing cops = good", and "cops killing anyone, justified or not = bad".

The vast majority of police are decent men who are honestly trying to do their jobs. Yes, there are bad apples, you can't eliminate that when humans are concerned, and when an officer does go over the line, as it appears has clearly been the case in Minn., the officer should be punished even more harshly than a citizen, betraying the public trust or some such justification.

But a blanket hatred of all police is just as bad as a blanket hatred of any other group.

[SoulReaver]

SR, as far as I can tell, you just hate cops, or any sort of authority figure.

Annoyed as far as I can tell admit it you just love government, or any sort of elite class
hey you're not the only elitist - but at least have the honesty to acknowledge it

the officer should be punished

wishful thinking?

even more harshly than a citizen, betraying the public trust or some such justification.

more wishful thinking?
lol you don't even know your own system - elites get attenuating not aggravating circumstances
and there ain't **** you & the rest of the "free folk" can do about it

But a blanket hatred of all police is just as bad as a blanket hatred of any other group.

distrust of those with power/privileges at least is grounded in common sense - blanket worship of something on the other hand...wait...sounds familiar...ah yes an awful lot like religion isn't it
just look at Kim & the north koreans - he doesn't need a god either, he is the god. lol

[SoulReaver]

btw all you merican conservatives: how does it feel to know that those supposed to protect you don't even support the 2nd Amendment you value so much?

[Womble]

cartesian logic 101 fail

only of those guilty

Spoiler:

hoho! wait one - you know they always support each other no matter what crime their comrades committed right? this sort of omerta is a known thing in the US

That was not a no.

As in that was not you denying that you support indiscriminate murder of police officers.

Just saying.


It appears, by the way, that the gunmen are on record saying that they specifically sought to murder white police officers, not just anyone in uniform. And white people generally.

[SoulReaver]

That was not a no.

As in that was not you denying that you support indiscriminate murder of police officers.

Just saying.

nope but it was no yes either ^^
btw whatever happened to guilt by association? usually it's considered very acceptable. or are the upper classes exempt?

It appears, by the way, that the gunmen are on record saying that they specifically sought to murder white police officers, not just anyone in uniform. And white people generally.

I did just tell FH that those willing to kill innocents should be treated like Isis rats

(also why tf are they mentioning white police officers only? in the US non-white officers too have been involved in wrongful killings & are just as corrupt. if the shooters can't see that this is a class problem & not a race problem then it just confirms they should be treated like Isis rats)

[Annoyed]

wishful thinking?more wishful thinking?
lol you don't even know your own system - elites get attenuating not aggravating circumstances
and there ain't **** you & the rest of the "free folk" can do about it

And under what governmental system is that not the case? I don't care what system you have, there are always going to be people at the top, middle and lower end of the scale. And under any system, life is easier for those at the top. The only difference is what qualifies you for whatever position you end up in; party connections, friends in high places, money, whatever.

distrust of those with power/privileges at least is grounded in common sense - blanket worship of something on the other hand...wait...sounds familiar...ah yes an awful lot like religion isn't it
just look at Kim & the north koreans - he doesn't need a god either, he is the god. lol

Distrust, yes. Watching them like a hawk, certainly.
But blind, murderous hatred of everyone? Sorry, I'll pass on that.

[SoulReaver]

And under what governmental system is that not the case? I don't care what system you have, there are always going to be people at the top, middle and lower end of the scale. And under any system, life is easier for those at the top. The only difference is what qualifies you for whatever position you end up in; party connections, friends in high places, money, whatever.

never merit

But blind, murderous hatred of everyone? Sorry, I'll pass on that.

what about blind disdain for all the taxpayers you're supposed to Serve n Protect? free pass?

[Annoyed]

never merit

That's one of the nice things about our system. A pauper can bust his arse working for a better life, and with a little luck, he can work himself up to the upper classes.

Not so easy to do that in socialist or communist system.

[SoulReaver]

That's one of the nice things about our system. A pauper can bust his arse working for a better life, and with a little ****load of luck, he can work himself up to the upper classes.

fixed

IRL he ends up as an 80+ year old pauper still busting his ass to pay his bills
(assuming he's allowed to keep the few fruits of his labour & the government doesn't take it from him through civil assets forfeiture, else he won't be the one doing the busting. one of the many not so nice things about yours system he?)

Not so easy to do that in socialist or communist system.

which type are you talking about? NK style?

[garhkal]

apparently two people started shooting cops, 5 dead so far.

It was more than 2. Some reports put it at 4 shooters.. Apparently 1 of which flat out told cops he was there just to kill as many whites as he could, preferably white cops..

Apparently they also hid bombs all over Dallas.

is that fact?

IMO it was done as a ploy to make more scared, than an actual threat...

more wishful thinking?
lol you don't even know your own system - elites get attenuating not aggravating circumstances
and there ain't **** you & the rest of the "free folk" can do about it

It certainly seems that way.. Especially after watching Hillary yet again get off scott free.
BUT that's the case in damn near EVERY society.. Those at the top ignore the same rules they then punish everyone underneath with..

[SoulReaver]

It certainly seems that way.. Especially after watching Hillary yet again get off scott free.
BUT that's the case in damn near EVERY society.. Those at the top ignore the same rules they then punish everyone underneath with..

she at least, has a limited power (limited in time, being a politician) not a lifetime position. in other words as soon as her tenure is over - when Republicans are in power - she'll become a commoner again (albeit a richer than average one) and will be very much indictable

[Annoyed]

It was more than 2. Some reports put it at 4 shooters.. Apparently 1 of which flat out told cops he was there just to kill as many whites as he could, preferably white cops..

A bit out of date on this.
Seems it was one lone nut job.
Dallas sniper attack: 5 officers killed, suspect identified

It certainly seems that way.. Especially after watching Hillary yet again get off scott free.
BUT that's the case in damn near EVERY society.. Those at the top ignore the same rules they then punish everyone underneath with..

I can just imagine the headline in the next few years:
"President Clinton issues pardon for herself".

[SoulReaver]

A bit out of date on this.
Seems it was one lone nut job.
Dallas sniper attack: 5 officers killed, suspect identified

5? bummer, this will easily double the average yearly US stats :/

[SoulReaver]

hoho I like this part:

Investigators identified the dead attacker as 25-year-old Micah Xavier Johnson of Mesquite, Texas, a military veteran who'd served in Afghanistan

so all ye Patriots, let's see how much you really respect your own soldiers who risked their lives in the world's ****tiest hellholes to protect you