Stargate and Nudity

[wolverine_nl]

Well like in the other threads about the same issue, the version with the nudity is the only 1 i know. It is to show that the Goauld saw us as pieces of meat that served as hostbodies/incubators. The crueltyfactor. Wright says this now, and he has every right to do so, its his show. But the reason isnt logic.
Violence is human nature, our bodies are also nature, but from a TV marketing viewpoint there is no such thing as natural. Sex sells yes, Violence sells also, but they want to put a crown on it, then the whole complete picture needs to be seen as a product with a certain amount of quality. Nudity lowers the quality in their eyes, if their intention is to bring it for a certain audience (ages etc)

[Falcon Horus]

Wright says this now, and he has every right to do so, its his show.

Yet, it doesn't give him a right to say violence is good, nudity is not.

[wolverine_nl]

Yet, it doesn't give him a right to say violence is good, nudity is not.

Read the line after that please

[~Dave]

Yet, it doesn't give him a right to say violence is good, nudity is not.

Apparently, it does. No win Senario. It really doesn't matter what you do. Someone is going to have an opinion that conflicts. We used to say opinions are like rectums (polite term), everybody just has to have one. My opinion is, I'll enjoy SG1 just the way it is.

~Dave

[ykickamoocow]

Something i have always found odd (stargate have done this aswell) when 2 characters have sex and then you cut to a scene of them them talking and you assume both are naked under the covers as they have just had sex. The male will almost always have his chest on desplay but the famale will have the covers up to her chin. Why bother covering yourself up if you have just had sex with someone as they have just seen everything there is to see.

[Skydiver]

the first time i saw cotg, it was the tv version....where the full monty was cut out. Didn'tmiss it in the slightest.

the scene was instead edited to 'show' you that she was naked, without showing us it 'all'

it was just as effective when they cut around the nudity than when they panned down and showed it all.

if the scene is effective without us seeing the full monty, it wasn't needed - in my opinion

I would rather see that gone to insure that the jack and daniel scene is left in, along with any other scenes, than i would seeing yet another actress naked.

[KindlyKeller]

This is something i cannot understand at all. Why are people so so scared of seeing people without clothing on screen but have apsolutely no problem with violence.

Let me ask you all a question. In real life what would offend you more, a person walking down the street completely naked or a person walking down the street with a severed head (The Last Man)?

Its really odd as in the real world sex and nudity are common and there is nothing wrong with it but on television its a big no no but violence is completely opposite where violence (killing people) is acceptable but in the real world you would get arrested and spend a very high amount of time in gaol.

Why are people so afraid of nudity on television (specifically Stargate) but violence is far more acceptable?

My opinion is that if it is tastefully done nudity should not be a problem for any tv show (including stargate).

I totally agree. "Stargate is A family franchise, for goodness sake! Anyway, about that decapitation we have planned for the finale..."

[KindlyKeller]

People now days don't have any shame anymore, if you don't see anything wrong with pornography you obviously have moral issues. A good solid human being knows and understand and practices moral maturity. I don't watch pornography. I don't watch shows that have excessive cussing. In fact i wish all shows didn't have cussing in them at all but in this world its impossible. Not all violence is bad, when you have an understanding adult that can comprehend the struggle between Good and Evil violence can be justified. I watch shows that have violence but if its too gorey i won't watch it, there's plenty of ways to make a show/movie that gets the point across to the viewer how bad the situation is. this is my beliefs, you definitely have the right to watch what you want, and do what you want but i know for certain i have a code of ethics to follow, and if it doesn't fall in line with my beliefs i won't watch it.


Gelasius

LOL!! WOW. Talk about self-satisfied pomposity. So, the guy I used to date who was a social worker, volunteered down at the hospice on weekends, and treated me with respect the entire time we went out has "moral issues" because he'd viewed pornography before?

Good grief.

[kymeric]

If anythings can be called good, then murder and nipples certainly can be called good.

This may be the greatest thing i have ever read. If i were a woman i wuld have ur babies!

[ykickamoocow]

I wonder how people would react if we saw Teyla breast feed her child next season. Sure it would be nudity but no one could say that it was even remotely sexual.

[KindlyKeller]

Sure it would be nudity but no one could say that it was even remotely sexual.

If they did, they would have serious moral issues

[Major Clanger]

Not moral issues, just perspective.

[Daedalus-304]

So why is it so hard to believe that many people are offended by nudity and not with violence?

One of the reasons many object to nudity (especially with children) is that it teaches people to objectify women, that is treat them more like objects rather than people.

I would also like to point out that in shows like stargate, there is violence, but it's not like in Grand Theft Auto were people go around and shoot people on the street. SG-1 usually uses violence to help people / save the world. Take a look at all kid shows (especially the ones focused at boys) the good guys fight bad guys (using violence) to save the world.

Also has anyone been around little boys, everything, legos, sticks, ect is a gun to them, which they use to "shoot" each other, even some girls will do this as well. I even took my Seven year old brother to play Laser Tag at his birthday party. Also, while around kids, you can hear them talking about Halo. Some parents take their kids fishing or maybe even hunting But to most boys, Girls have cooties (and vice versa), stuff like kissing is gross, being naked is something to be embarrassed about (and inappropriate) and many parents would like to keep it like this. So to many violence is appropriate for kids, but knowing about nudity and sex is for when they get older (I've heard many people and read many articles that says this would ruin a person's childhood and development)

And the objections to cursing is self-explanatory I think, if kids hear people saying bad words on TV, they will say them.

a majority of us americans are prudes. plain and simple.

And most of us are proud of that!

[PG15]

Not moral issues, just perspective.

You're right. We won't see the boobie at all with the baby's head in front of it. We'll need a different perspective to see the whole thing.

[JaffaGirl]

For me, the first time i watched Children of the Gods, i was about fourteen or fifteen years old, and i got scared rather than anything else.
In retrospective,i think that if she would have been dressed, the scene wouldnt have been as effectfull, even if nudity (and violence) isnt a good thing for young children to watch.

the scene was instead edited to 'show' you that she was naked, without showing us it 'all'

it was just as effective when they cut around the nudity than when they panned down and showed it all.

I agree thought, that they could have, from the beginning used a less "explicit" way to get the same feeling of the scene, and that there didnt had to be a "special" version.