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    #31
    <<There was a woman in The X-Files fandom named Lee Burwasser who used to post quite regularly about what she saw as problems, flaws, dissappointments in the later seasons of the show. It was something she spent a lot of time on, really. And I said to her one day, "Lee, if you don't like it, walk away. Life is short. Go watch something you like." And I remembered that with a sort of sick terrible sadness when it was shared with the fandom that Lee had passed away suddenly. We all thought about those many many hours Lee spent watching and griping about TXF and how she could have been doing something pleasurable, amusing, fun, delightful, uplifting. Of course, it was Lee's right to spend her life as she wanted to, but I wonder if she had known she was going to die, if she would have done something differently. And that's the point - we don't know when our life is going to be over, so every moment should be spent realizing that we don't have any guarantees about tomorrow. >>>

    I'm sorry, that is a huge assumption that she wasn't doing something fullfilling for her and without knowing the circumstances a very possibly unfair one at that.


    Many times fans have situations in their RL that are out of control, that are davasting to them and it helps to have an excape or a means to channel frustration and fears into. Maybe it gave her more strength to try and change something about a TV show when she couldn't change unalterable facts in her own life. Maybe it gave her some sense of control over destiny or whatever that she could try and 'make a difference' in something that was important to her. I have a dear friend who had to undergo painful operations for a life threatening illness called breast cancer. Watching SG1 and talking about it, took her mind off the pain and helped her cope with something that might otherwise have overwhelmed her. She loved being able to have that few moments to go on the net and complain or praise or whatever struck her at the moment and made her feel better. I lost that dear friend because she lost her battle with cancer. If we don't know why something is important to someone then it should never be trivelized as 'not important' or a waste of time if it helped them.

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      #32
      Originally posted by ShadowMaat
      I'm sorry, I thought this thread was for discussion of season nine, not so that fans could personally attack each other. It's obvious that PKnuts and not so ancient have a personal disagreement, but I see no reason why the entire board should be subjected to it. That isn't the point of this thread and it isn't the point of this BOARD. If you can't play nicely, move along somewhere else. Stick to the subject.
      The thread was originated by someone who has by his own admission grown to hate the show. Maybe _that_ is the thing that doesn't belong on the board? Hmmmm?
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        #33
        Originally posted by Pknuts
        I don't need you to tell me if I like Stargate or not. The only person who can answer that is me, and i LOVE stargate.


        ShadowMaat: I had no beef with not so ancient till he started personally harassing me. I was perfectly willing to stick to the subject.
        By your own admission you think 80% of the time it's terrible. You can't love something that you hate 80% of the time. That's irrational, by any definition.

        Spend your life watching a show you hate and posting about it. Your choice, your life, your loss. Whatever! I will never understand the disenchanted angry sci-fi fan, but if people want that kind of existence, I can't stop them.

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          #34
          Originally posted by not so ancient
          The thread was originated by someone who has by his own admission grown to hate the show. Maybe _that_ is the thing that doesn't belong on the board? Hmmmm?
          Erm, I never said I hated the show so don't put words in my mouth. I said I 'LOVED' the show.

          And even if I did hate the show, I would still be allowed to post on this board, just like everyone else.

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            #35
            Originally posted by not so ancient
            By your own admission you think 80% of the time it's terrible. You can't love something that you hate 80% of the time. That's irrational, by any definition.

            Spend your life watching a show you hate and posting about it. Your choice, your life, your loss. Whatever! I will never understand the disenchanted angry sci-fi fan, but if people want that kind of existence, I can't stop them.

            And I'm a SHE.
            Will you stop misundertanding EVERYTHING I say and just generally harassing me?!

            80% of Season 7-8 has been terrible. The 'show' is BRILLIANT!

            Get your facts right, and stop bugging me.

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              #36
              Originally posted by not so ancient
              The thread was originated by someone who has by his own admission grown to hate the show. Maybe _that_ is the thing that doesn't belong on the board? Hmmmm?
              So no one is ever allowed to say anything bad about the show? No one is allowed to voice their displeasure? No one can say that they don't like what the show has become? Maybe ALL of us who have negative viewpoints should shut up and move along. 'Cause you know what? I hate what the show has become, too. Does that make ME a bad person? Does that make ME worthy of personal attacks? Is my personal integrity worth less because I dare NOT to like something? Maybe I shouldn't be allowed to post here, either.

              After all, only POSITIVE things are allowed to be expressed, right? And if you aren't in love with the show RIGHT NOW, in its current incarnation, then you aren't really a fan and have no right to say anything.

              Sorry, but I don't buy that. PKnut may have problems of his own, but he's hardly the only one. I will continue to express MY opinion and I don't give a flying frak if that displeases some people. It's MY opinion and I'm not forcing anyone to read it so if anyone has a PROBLEM with that, they have only themselves to blame.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Pknuts
                Erm, I never said I hated the show so don't put words in my mouth. I said I 'LOVED' the show.
                I'm going by the commonly accepted parameters of what 'love' means. Guess you fall outside that.

                You claim to 'love' Stargate SG-1, the very same Stargate SG-1 where you think that 4 out of 5, or 80% of the episodes, are terrible. Most people don't 'love' something they think is inferior, irritating, dissappointing, misguided, poorly produced, or just plain bad 80% of the time. '

                If you want to create a unique definition of 'love' that doesn't sound like what the rest of us know as 'love' and really sounds a lot more like 'hate' then you should not be surprised when people don't understand your 'special' meaning.
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ShadowMaat
                  So no one is ever allowed to say anything bad about the show? No one is allowed to voice their displeasure? No one can say that they don't like what the show has become? Maybe ALL of us who have negative viewpoints should shut up and move along.
                  Gee, I don't think I said, or implied, any of that.

                  You already know what I think of the people who can't let go of something they once loved and now hate. If any of that applies to you, consider it, and good luck to you.
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by not so ancient
                    Gee, I don't think I said, or implied, any of that.

                    You already know what I think of the people who can't let go of something they once loved and now hate. If any of that applies to you, consider it, and good luck to you.
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                    You conveniently don't quote what I said about "80% of Season 7-8 has been terrible. The 'show' is BRILLIANT!". Get it through your thick skull, I LOVE Stargate SG-1, I don't like seasons 7 and 8, but I would never stop watching a show because of that. I will watch season 9 and hope to be surprised and entertained.

                    I. DO. NOT. HATE. THE. SHOW.
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Pknuts
                      A minority? Let's take a look at this forum shall we? Considering the ANTI season 9 thread is 3 times bigger than the PRO season 9 thread, I'd say that's a fair indication of the feelings of the fans.
                      Just because some fans don't post in the PRO Season 9 thread doesn't mean they're not looking forward to it, as a rule, those who are against something are far more likely to express their opinion than those for, or indifferent do not always share their opinion. I for one have never posted on the PRO Season 9 thread (to my knowledge) that doesn't mean that I am automatically against it, I'm actually looking forward to it.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Pknuts
                        80% of Season 7-8 has been terrible.
                        In your opinion.

                        I think the main problem with this thread is that you're expressing your very own opinions like they are everybody ones.

                        Btw, I agree that allowing only positive comments isn't constructive at all. My point has to do with the way of expressing it not the opinion in itself.
                        Anyway, I'll just try to ignore that kind of threads and do what I've always done: focusing more on the show and less on what the others think about it.

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                          #42
                          The thread and its participants will remain civilized and refrain from personal attacks or it will be closed faster than you can say takunitagaminituron.

                          Thank you!

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Osiris
                            In your opinion.

                            I think the main problem with this thread is that you're expressing your very own opinions like they are everybody ones.

                            Btw, I agree that allowing only positive comments isn't constructive at all. My point has to do with the way of expressing it not the opinion in itself.
                            Anyway, I'll just try to ignore that kind of threads and do what I've always done: focusing more on the show and less on what the others think about it.
                            Yes it is my opinion. I never said I spoke for every fan of the show.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Pknuts
                              You are so clueless it's unbelievable.
                              Hate to break it to you, but I was not responding to you. I was responding to ShadowMaat.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by not so ancient
                                Hate to break it to you, but I was not responding to you. I was responding to ShadowMaat.

                                Great. Bye bye now, you can go.

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