Medical Ship Design

[mickhhh]

If its a global virus we can not evac a planet to a base...and if you move a virus it could spread.

we would make 1 off world base with the propa equipment. the base would be on a world that has nothing else on it apart from us.
this would be much cheaper then building a huge ship that can help 1000s of people.
also if it is a global virus 1 ship is not going to be able to help enough people. if we hold many in stasis we can let them out as we can help them.
also most planets have no more than 100000 people and we could beam them up.

[lordofseas]

Oh I'm sorry - didn't realise we were electing to design the sir gigglesworth fleet.

It might be funny to suggest Morcambe and Wise command a ship, but I don't see that happening.

Largely because both are deceased, but hey, it still wouldn't be Christmas without Eric & Ernie!

Precicely, that's not funny, but macabre and disturbing.

Seriously, if this is a medical ship, then medical facilities should dominate, as well as stasis pods. So, it should be relatively large.

[comperius]

I have another proposal for a completly new ship design.

What if we use Atlantis tower hanger (just the hanger) as a basic, make the door on the bottom of floor and position it somewhere where you positioned that removable medic bays? surrond that we can play little bit or if we want to have a really huge ship we can add 1 or 2 or 3 more hangers just like this one...

what do you think?

[Sealurk]

Any hospital ship is unlikely to be an entirely new class specifically designed for the purpose, but rather a conversion of an existing variant. This is mainly how it is in real life, with ocean liners being turned into floating hospitals.

So it makes sense that any Stargate interstellar hospital ship (which I think there is a need for, even if you do have a Medical World accessible through the Stargate) would be based on an existing design. A 304 would be expedient, but less than ideal in combat situations, so how about a generalised all-round transport? Basically, a box with engines that has vast internal space that can be configured for various missions. One would likely be permanently setup as a hospital ship, with the rest having the capability to be relatively quickly converted.

[Flyboy]

Precicely, that's not funny, but macabre and disturbing.

Seriously, if this is a medical ship, then medical facilities should dominate, as well as stasis pods. So, it should be relatively large.

Macabre and disturbing - oh dear me. *rolls eyes*

[Naquadah_nut]

I think based on the casualties incured by the ori atacks and the wraith encounter the SGC may have a vested interest in making a dedicated fly in, fly out medical vessel. Prime example being how when the apollo and the sun tzu were crippled in the galactic void by the Uber wraith ship. If a medical ship had been trailing a few light years behind the whole event would have been easier to manage in the end, soon as the wraith jumped into hyperspace they flash in and beam the sun tzus crew aboard as they were venting atmosphere and take the wounded from the apollo. Then the sun tzu could be powered down til it could be repaired and the apollo could have its dedicated repair crew start work without having to aid in medical triage on the wounded crew members, plus the sun tzu could send its repair crew over too, faster turn around and maybe an avoided loss of life or potential crippling of some injured crew.

There are now 5 304 class ships travelling around the galaxies. Now would be the perfect time to add maybe 3 medical ships to the mix, one dedicated to atlantis (when its bk in PG) maybe parked on or above new athos. and 2 in the MW, one within the Sol sector and one at the alpha site, this should yield a quick deployment to most areas in the galaxy, based on the 304s 15 day MW to PG trip that would probs be around 1-2 days to any major incident. one side of the galaxy to the other, i have no references, just taking a guess.

For this of course i still want a 304 hyperdrive and the most advanced shields that a 304 would be equiped with, i would also add alot of transverse bulkheads, allowing for some damage to the hull without a major structural breach. think the titanic but obviously a space ship wont sink if the atmosphere is emptied from the compartments around the hull.

[comperius]

Well but what Apollo and Sun Tzu really needed at that time where not only medics, but also engineers to patch the ship and if any case possible make it ready to combat ASAP. No mather how damaged they where.

So again the need of smaller ships apear, to transport medics, engineers and to fight time enough for the crew of the bigger ships to escape on one or other ship, because if the battle would last 5 more minutes there would be no crew to survive...

[guppy338]

why not a repear ship as well

[comperius]

Sun Tzu in that scenario was loosing air and the only way the crew survived was to beam on Apollo. In case that there is only one ship, the crew would be unable to escape anywhere.

In case that this small ship or ships would follow we could save the crew in mather of minutes or in case that we would have 2+ ships we could use this ships to save the 304 before it started loosing air and 304 could espace and smaller ship also.

but in case that smaller ships would be to late than the best way would be to take the crew on board and destroy our 304 and the enemy ship with it (I have second thoughts regarding costs if we have to fix more than 10 or 20% of the ship).

[Merlin1701]

few pics of my medical ship, the Asclepius along with my Athena and anothe ship im working on which will escort the athena class.

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A pic showing the Asclepius with deployed hospital pod.

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[comperius]

very nice. the ship in the midlle looks realy great. which class is that? and what are it's jobs?

[Merlin1701]

The long middle ship is my deep space science and research vessel...the Eath Vessel - Athena. These ship designs are set a few years in the future, they are a real blend of Lantean, Asgard and Tauri tech and I wanted the design to reflect that. The Athena is the furthest along to completion.

The medical vessel design is going to be used as a tank etc drop ship

[stargater1990]

TBH, i dont think we really need a dedicated medical ship because our 304s are multipurpose ships designed to handle all situations that arise, including medical emergencies. i mean they have cloaks(or at least they can and should), shields that can withstand a lot of fire, and weapons that can destroy alsmost anything they come across in a matter of seconds, not to mention engines that can have the ship anywhere in the galaxy in under 15 hours. it also has large hangars that can function as cargo bays as well as triage areas should the need arise so really why go to the trouble of creating a medical ship when you have one of these babys.

also, if we add the technology from "the ark" that allows storage of potentially thousands of people in what is essientally stasis for hundreds of years then you just made a 304 the perfect medical ship as it is because if the crew of one of our 304's like the deadalus were all injured you just drop out of hyperspace, kick whoever did its ass and then beam all seriously injured paitents into the storage modual and beam over a small med team to deal with the minorly injured paitents with like cuts and bruises and a repair team to get the ship up and running and then fly to the nearest offworld base or simply back to earth and beam the injured crewmembers down to the SGC or base infirmary to be treated.

or if for some reason you were unable to save the ship because too many enemys are still around you just drop outta hyperspace, cloak, and then beam all crewmembers into the storage device and fly away, making sure to leave a nice little nuke to scuttle the crippled ship.

[comperius]

well more than a medic ship we would really need a support ship to secure and support our 304's with materials, medics, engineers, spare parts and other stuff needed to execute 304's missions. and this ship should not be more than 30-50% of 304's size so we could build maybe up to 5 ships per year (together with 1 or 2 304's).

[titan_hq]

I has an idea for a general utility/medical ship.
I've being playing with MOLLE recently, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOLLE_%28military%29 , and the idea of modularity.

So I propose, a modular design, with standard parts which could very well be the basis of a new generation of modular ships, including but not confined to: Hospital ships, Repair ships, Warships and Cargo haulers.

I present the M.I.M.S.S - Multi-task Independent Modular Space System.
The ship would be made up of a series of base parts, which could be assembled alone or with other extra attachments and modifications to create more specialised classes. (Note the raised external bridge attachment)



On the quick sketch I did, I show engines extended from the main body, to protect patients from explosions and dangerous radiations that could react unexpectedly with alien viruses or bacteria.
This would be one of a few possible engine layouts for different needs. This one providing safety over function and efficiency.

The 304 is a capable ship, but its a warship, and has been shown not to handle large scale, or long term medical (or other) emergencies too well.
I think a new modular ship design, born from the need of dedicated medical and support for our 304s is a logical step forward for the Tau'ri.


(n.b. not a bad post I have here, to say I haven't posted in a while )