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    #91
    oh and counter assimilation is possible aswell. in the end its a draw.

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      #92
      Originally posted by thekillman View Post
      oh and counter assimilation is possible aswell. in the end its a draw.
      But its not just the Borg Vs Replicators, its the Borg plus the rest of the ST universe.
      Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."

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        #93
        says the one that always pitches a race against the borg first

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          #94
          Originally posted by Buba uognarf View Post
          They were in a realm with matter instead of space, sounds like different physics too me. Your assuming the Rep technology would be beyond the Borg's understanding, Borg nanoprobes can assimilate 29th century technology which is significantly beyond the Replicators.



          Nanoprobes can be dispersed in a gas or fired as part of the warhead of a torpedo. Or the Borg could use one of those uber mines they wanted to use on species 8472. Disperses nanoprobes over 5ly and has a blast able to affect entire star systems.
          it was not matter instead of space. there was simply so much matter there was no space as far as voyager went. if they went far enough they would have found space. well thats wot makes sence to me.
          the only 29th century tech they have assimilated was a mobile admitter which would not have any kind of defence build into it. where as reps would.

          Nanoprobes can be dispersed in a gas but they dont do it on there ships so the reps would be free to do what they want. any spider that gets infected would soon be destoryed when the cube self destructs. any rep ship that gets infected would simply self destruct until the reps adapt with the anti nanoprobe radiation.



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            #95
            Originally posted by thekillman View Post
            says the one that always pitches a race against the borg first
            Well everyone is so quick to jump on the SG bandwagon so I brought up the Borg and their nanoprobes and it turned into a huge debate.

            Originally posted by mickhhh View Post
            it was not matter instead of space. there was simply so much matter there was no space as far as voyager went. if they went far enough they would have found space. well thats wot makes sence to me.
            the only 29th century tech they have assimilated was a mobile admitter which would not have any kind of defence build into it. where as reps would.
            Fluidic space is what you saw in Scorpian, there is no space its matter. If you keep travelling you'll see more of the same green crap. Yes but it shows that the Borg can assimilate advanced tech, Replicators don't have any defences against microscopic machines as far as we know.

            Nanoprobes can be dispersed in a gas but they dont do it on there ships so the reps would be free to do what they want. any spider that gets infected would soon be destoryed when the cube self destructs. any rep ship that gets infected would simply self destruct until the reps adapt with the anti nanoprobe radiation.
            How hard would it be to modify their ships to release the nanoprobes in a gas form? If the Replicators could be stopped inside the ship there would be no need to self destruct. Have we ever seen Replicator ships self destruct? Who's to say the Replicators even have the capacity to generate the radiation on an individual basis, its likely a type that doesn't even exist in SG.
            Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."

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              #96
              we never saw a repliship self destruct as the only time one WAS destroyed, it was attacked and not infiltrated. infact, you cant infiltrate them. infact, repliships have never been hacked, and infact, the asgard who tend to think so smart did not use microscopical machines against the MWR< so it stands to reason that its ineffective. after all its not exactly a simple solution

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                #97
                Originally posted by thekillman View Post
                we never saw a repliship self destruct as the only time one WAS destroyed, it was attacked and not infiltrated. infact, you cant infiltrate them. infact, repliships have never been hacked, and infact, the asgard who tend to think so smart did not use microscopical machines against the MWR< so it stands to reason that its ineffective. after all its not exactly a simple solution
                Rubbish. Just because the Asgard couldn't do it doesn't mean its not possible. Nanoprobes can be dispersed in torpedoes, no need to board the repliships.
                Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."

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                  #98
                  they would have to get past the superpowerfull shields first

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by thekillman View Post
                    they would have to get past the superpowerfull shields first
                    Borg cubes are formidable and we know SG shields use frequencies, they maybe to bypass the shields. If we talking about the entire ST universe give the Borg the Voyager End Game technology they'll be slapping Replicator ships out of the sky.
                    Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."

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                      give the replicators the knowledge that they got from daniel and they very well can slap the Replicator ships out of the sky

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                        Originally posted by thekillman View Post
                        give the replicators the knowledge that they got from daniel and they very well can slap the Replicator ships out of the sky
                        The Replicators don't have that knowledge in this scenario. It wasn't been specified. We also don't know what knowledge the Replicators got from Daniel, it could be pretty useless in a combat sense.
                        Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."

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                          understanding of the universe is always useful.

                          buba you constantly seem to forget that replicators adapt too.


                          but hey, different question. who comes further, the Asurans or the MWR?

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                            Originally posted by thekillman View Post
                            understanding of the universe is always useful.

                            buba you constantly seem to forget that replicators adapt too.


                            but hey, different question. who comes further, the Asurans or the MWR?
                            I haven't forgotten anything, I just don't think the Replicators would adapt to transphasic torpedoes at least not quickly. If the Borg have access to the torpedoes and launch a massive strike with all their resources before the replicators spread too far they maybe able to wipe them out.

                            Not sure what your asking?
                            Last edited by Buba uognarf; 08 June 2009, 09:50 AM.
                            Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."

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                              which has more success in the ST universe; MWR or Asurans

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                                Originally posted by thekillman View Post
                                which has more success in the ST universe; MWR or Asurans
                                MWR, they can produce themselves more easily. The Asurans would have been formidable if they were nerfed in BAMSR, before that shoddy episode however Borg nanoprobes IMO would certainly be effective against Asurans.
                                Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."

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