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Originally posted by Owen MacriNot sure where to start, other than where we left off so, I'll try to get to everything. First in response to Seastallion's post. Our idea's sound similar the only problem is you said that the hyperspace cooridors would be formed by a strong antigravity field that would warp space-time, technically a strong antigravity field is a warp in space-time, or an antiwarp, whatever you want to call it. You you are saything that space-time causes hyperspace-time to be what it is, and I would have to disagree with you.
Now in response to immhotep about the different colours, my idea does take ti to another "level" (you'll get the joke later) and explains the different colour windows.
My idea says that hyperspace get's progressively and progressively smaller, layer after layer the volume of the universe decreases, and as the universe get's smaller the faster you can go because the bigger you would be relative to the universe, and the further you can travel in less time. Different hyperdrives allow transit at different relative speeds therefore, the must access different layers of hyperspace, the more advanced the hyperdrive the deeper it can penetrate. That is another difference between my idea and Seastallion's, perhaps in Seastallions different hyperspace cooridors could allow different relative speeds.
The only other thing that I don't agree with is that when your hyperdrive deactivates you are automatically pushed back into regular space. I believe you would stay in hyperspace until you left. let's say your hyperdrive just shut down, what would happen is the space-time buble around your ship would disapear and you would shrink to fit the scale of the hyperspace layer, to exit you would just have to reactivate your hyperdrive like you were in normal space and it would open a hyperspace window back to regular space an then you just shut your stuff down again. The only reason someone would be pushed back into regular space is if the hyperdrive had failsafes that automatically opened hyperspace windows when the drives were dying.
One question for Seastallion, if you can simply access hyperspace by separating these threads, then how would you access different layers of hyperspace or cooridoors, I think we must agree that there need to be different layers or corridoors as we have seen a vast range in possible hyperspace travel.
What you are describing is more like the 'hyperspace' described in Babylon 5, where it is a completely seperate spatial dimension. The reason for the Red Into-Hyperspace Windows, and Blue Exit-Hyperspace Windows are because of the shifts in light (In B5). It is red-shifted because the portal is moving light and matter away into hyperspace. It is blue-shifted because the portal is moving light and matter closer out of hyperspace.The success or failure of your deeds, does not add up to the sum of your life. Your spirit cannot be weighed! Judge yourself by the intentions of your actions, and by the strength with which you faced the challenges that have stood in your way. The Universe is so vast, and we are so small, there is only truly one thing we can control; whether we are good or evil... -Oma Desala
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Ok, so yes, our ideas have their variations, but can we agree that on this subject they are equal. And on your comment about keeping you in an unnatural state, you would be in an unnatural state when you are in hyperspace surrounded by a hyperspace bubble (I am calling it a hyperspace bubble because it is used in hyperspace it's techincally a space-time bubble) when your drive shuts down you get scalled to the size of the universe.
Well wavelength shifting is one possibility but I don't see the movement of light and matter as a cause.
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Originally posted by Owen MacriOk, so yes, our ideas have their variations, but can we agree that on this subject they are equal. And on your comment about keeping you in an unnatural state, you would be in an unnatural state when you are in hyperspace surrounded by a hyperspace bubble (I am calling it a hyperspace bubble because it is used in hyperspace it's techincally a space-time bubble) when your drive shuts down you get scalled to the size of the universe.
Well wavelength shifting is one possibility but I don't see the movement of light and matter as a cause.The success or failure of your deeds, does not add up to the sum of your life. Your spirit cannot be weighed! Judge yourself by the intentions of your actions, and by the strength with which you faced the challenges that have stood in your way. The Universe is so vast, and we are so small, there is only truly one thing we can control; whether we are good or evil... -Oma Desala
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Originally posted by Owen MacriThat's close enough, but it would actually be violet-shifted as that is colour at the other end of the electromagnetic spectrum. But that wouldn't really apply to a hyperspace window.
Here is a 'B5' Jumpgate generating a Hyperspace window (Babylon 5 style).
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I know this is a little off the topic but what exactly was contained in the Aurora mission reports? Surely it wasnt the hyperspace engine specifications, that wouldnt be in the report.
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Originally posted by HarekinI know this is a little off the topic but what exactly was contained in the Aurora mission reports? Surely it wasnt the hyperspace engine specifications, that wouldnt be in the report.
Yeah, I always thought that was a little fuzzy too. Anyways, they must have had enough info on the subject for the Wraith to take advantage of it. Also, we don't know how much info the Wraith on the Aurora mission might have been able to send back prior to his death. Maybe there were only a few missing pieces of information they lacked, along with the locations of the destinations they needed to go to. They were never specific about it.The success or failure of your deeds, does not add up to the sum of your life. Your spirit cannot be weighed! Judge yourself by the intentions of your actions, and by the strength with which you faced the challenges that have stood in your way. The Universe is so vast, and we are so small, there is only truly one thing we can control; whether we are good or evil... -Oma Desala
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I was watching JAG the other day, and they had an interesting episode about the military's research into Psychic Phenomena. They proved that there was something to it, but the problem was that it was inconsistent and virtually impossible to control at will. However, on certain tests they beat the odds consistently enough to prove that there was indeed something happening. They called it the "Psychic Warrior" program.
In the world of Stargate, we saw Jonas Quinn being able to see bits of the future after being experimented on by Nirti. We've also seen various examples of humans advanced by artificial means besides. The ones Nirti worked on, the Priors, and Malick (I think was his name... Anubis' boy). Well, I had the idea... what if the Military decided to reinitialize the "Psychic Warrior" program using the technology and data procured through the gate?
They'd have the DNA machine left behind by Anubis, the Memory Implant Device from the Galarans, and all the data they've accumulated with Col. O'Neill, Aiyana ("Frozen"), Malick ("Prototype"), and Cassandra. Not to mention whatever data they've gotten from Atlantis. Also, assuming Anubis left notes, they should be able to work out how he did some of the things he did. They'd probably be able to find some people willing to have their DNA messed with in exchange for the possibility of recieving paranormal abilities.
Assuming they started having successes (whenever that might be), they'd probably start up some sort of Spec Ops team to make use of whatever they developed. If they succeeded in making someone able to heal people, they might start some sort of healing program. If they could do that, they could probably also start up some sort of Telepathic program. The CIA would go bananas if they had access to something like that. In the end... where would something like that end up? If those people had their DNA messed up with, whatever children they'd end up having would also have at least the potential for having similar abilities. Thus, possibly it could spread into the general population. Albeit slowly, over a succession of generations.
They might also find, that those born with the ATA Gene might be more receptive to such DNA manipulations, since they are already descended from genetically advanced humans in the first place. It would change the world of stargate quite a bit in the long run. With in a couple of hundred years, there could be a sizeable population of people with paranormal abilities. We saw how all that sort of thing was in Babylon 5, but how would it be in the world of Stargate? Just some thoughts.
Last edited by Seastallion; 31 March 2006, 06:36 AM.The success or failure of your deeds, does not add up to the sum of your life. Your spirit cannot be weighed! Judge yourself by the intentions of your actions, and by the strength with which you faced the challenges that have stood in your way. The Universe is so vast, and we are so small, there is only truly one thing we can control; whether we are good or evil... -Oma Desala
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Originally posted by SeastallionYeah, I always thought that was a little fuzzy too. Anyways, they must have had enough info on the subject for the Wraith to take advantage of it. Also, we don't know how much info the Wraith on the Aurora mission might have been able to send back prior to his death. Maybe there were only a few missing pieces of information they lacked, along with the locations of the destinations they needed to go to. They were never specific about it.
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Actually in real life the military ran a secrety program that they called "Stargate" believe it or not, that was used to attempt to train people with already "proven" pyschic abilities to use remote viewing. Apparently, (Whatever that means) they did succeed in locating downed helicopter pilots and such, I don't think anything was ever verified or quantified, there is an actual ESP scale, which I find kind of wierd, but allright. Most of the stuff you hear out there though is likely just completely fabricated by the paranoid/interested.
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lol, ive actually researched and become involved with this quite alot, theres a great website called PSIPOG.net, there are some really interesting articles on there.
and yesstargate was a paranormal research program by the military to study the uses of remote viewing and ExtraSensoryPerception in the cold war.
Ive actually talked to owen about this, remember the exercise i had you do once? the ball of energy in your hands..sigpic
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Originally posted by Owen MacriActually in real life the military ran a secrety program that they called "Stargate" believe it or not, that was used to attempt to train people with already "proven" pyschic abilities to use remote viewing. Apparently, (Whatever that means) they did succeed in locating downed helicopter pilots and such, I don't think anything was ever verified or quantified, there is an actual ESP scale, which I find kind of wierd, but allright. Most of the stuff you hear out there though is likely just completely fabricated by the paranoid/interested.
Yeah, but the question is, given what they have access to in the world of stargate, would they try to restart those programs, by artificially advancing humans based on what they've found to date? If they would, what would be the result of such experiments be in the long term? How might it change things here on Earth having such people existing with quantifiable and proven abilities? Would they become part of the normal fabric of society, or would they end up being outcasts? Or would they remain hidden, until their numbers were simply impossible to hide or control? The consequences for any acts may have a price, but it is how you deal with it that determines the final result.The success or failure of your deeds, does not add up to the sum of your life. Your spirit cannot be weighed! Judge yourself by the intentions of your actions, and by the strength with which you faced the challenges that have stood in your way. The Universe is so vast, and we are so small, there is only truly one thing we can control; whether we are good or evil... -Oma Desala
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YES, prototype clearly shows they have great interest in furthering thier understanding of these things...i can imagine thje IC setting up a research base on the device's planet, it was never destroyed, im thinking at somepoint they will use this to make every soldier ATA gene'd, a more precise version of gene therapy.
Imagine what we could learn, we could complete anubis's work, heck if we must daniel could become the first Tauri prior or naturally acended being in a new Anti-prior/ mashur(ascended warriors) army.
i think this in the long term should be our goal, not to fight the ori conventionally but advanced to the point where our power in psychic and evolutionary terms equals them.sigpic
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