SG1 Archive pleads guilty

[Ugly Pig]

Chances are, MGM didn't want him transferring those shows because if people have the movie files on their computer- what will they need the DVD box set for. Hence, their motives are most likely monetary.

Exactly. Then you go on to ask this:

I feel that the arguement of "protecting" media is kinda void. What are you protecting it from?

You already answered your own question above. If a work is not protected by copyright, people won't pay for it.

Now you can preach all you want about "the evils of capitalism", but consider this: If it wasn't for copyright law, artists would not be able to sell their works (because people would copy it for free). If artists were not able to sell their works, they couldn't afford to do them. Hence, there'd be nothing for you to copy or buy.

You say you think piracy is great. If everyone felt that way, we wouldn't have Stargate. Or other movies, music, video games... you name it. And that is an absolute certainty.

[prion]

Ehh. Well, I am sort of serious. I really do have a strong aversion to capitalism.

well, if it wasn't for capitalism, stargate wouldn't even exist as it, as well as all other tv shows, as they are created to make money. Yes, evil capitalism as it's best

One thing I must say is that MGm offers some of the best prices on their DVD box sets for SG1. I've seen season 1 of some shows go for $100+, so getting SG1 at $50 (if you shop around) is very good.

Again, that's capitalism at work too.

[aschen]

Well fortunately, not everyone thinks piracy is great.

As for the prices of the DVD box sets, if you downloaded them all the price of it wouldn't matter anyway, would it? Can you really say that TV shows wouldn't exist if it wasn't for capitalism?

FYI- I do buy the DVD box sets, but have downloaded all of S7 because I missed the entire season. I do intend on purchasing it when it comes out.

ADDENUM: I would also like to add, that many futuristic sci-fi shows and movies like Star Trek are relatively close to a form of national socialism.

[Skydiver]

Captiolism is the system we live with. for better or for worse.

And bri brought up a good point. There are other fandoms that are nowhere near as tolerant as MGM and Stargate are. fanfiction.net will refuse to publish fan works based on origianal works of some authors, because those authors have asked ff.net not to.

It's my understanding that Lucasfilm is most protective of Star Wars, Paramount has been known to be pissy more than once over Trek, JK Rowling tolerates fanfic, as long as it's not either slash or above an R rating, i'm not sure which

Basically, we exist because the original copyright owners LET us exist. People like Adam endanger that.

and IIRC, there was also something with him involving the promise of dvd players that were never delivered after they were paid for. This gentleman has a long standing reputation of behaving less than honorably. IMHO, he got what was coming to him and I just hope that he hasn't managed to ruin it for the rest of us.

[aschen]

I didn't know about that. Scammers deserve to be taken down.

I'm sorry if I seemed as if I were standing up for this guy. I meant it in no such light.

[Skydiver]

aschen, it's your opinion. you're entitled to it.

capitolism is far, far, far from perfect. But it's all we got

As to Adam....it's between him, his conscience and his lawyers.

I never downloaded from him, never paid him so it doesn't concern me other than any future ramifications that may result from this

[aschen]

aschen, it's your opinion. you're entitled to it.

capitolism is far, far, far from perfect. But it's all we got

As to Adam....it's between him, his conscience and his lawyers.

I never downloaded from him, never paid him so it doesn't concern me other than any future ramifications that may result from this

Agreed. Unfortunately, not everyone feels I should be entitled to my opinions. I honestly never even heard of that guy or that site until today.

How do such hearings go these days anyway?

[Andy867]

Oh, and for those who were wondering about his site being overseas, if the gov'ts recognize the Interpol agreement, as well as the United States' stand on copyrighted material. then the DOJ as well as the FBI would have full jurisdiction, especially since it originately started in the US.

[Teal'c]

I'd like to point out that if it weren't for Adam I wouldn't be here today (In Stargate fandom) and MGM would not have made the money from the DVDs I purchased. That said, there was some controversy a few years back when SG-1 Archive's message board was part of The Midas Array and nobody seemed to receive the DVD players they ordered through the site.

Also, I'm pretty damn sure SG-1 Archive's episodes were gone long before April 2003... I remember having to download Season 6 from alternate sources, and that was June 2002...

[Andy867]

But the article said that they had been tracking him for 3 years, which would place it back to 2001 or sooner. They probably had to wait ont he Federal Prosecution to be convinced that there was enough evidence built up against the invididual that case would have no choice but to proceed.

[prion]

<http://www.nbc4.tv/entertainment/3830198/detail.html> reports:

Man Pleads Guilty In TV Show Website Dispute
Man Allegedly Moved Site Overseas After Receiving Cease, Desist
Letters

POSTED: 2:12 pm PDT October 18, 2004

LOS ANGELES -- A Cincinnati man who runs a Web site based on the
science fiction TV series "Stargate SG-1" pleaded guilty Monday to a
misdemeanor copyright infringement charge involving episodes of the show.

Adam Clark McGaughey, 35, is free on bond pending sentencing Jan. 24
before U.S. District Court Judge George H. King, said Assistant U.S.
Attorney Wes Hsu.

McGaughey is facing up to a year in prison, with a felony charge
against him expected to be dismissed at the time of sentencing,
according to the prosecutor.

Authorities alleged earlier this year that McGaughey gave visitors to
his Web site a chance to download episodes of the show, which airs on
Showtime and UPN.

After getting letters from the Motion Picture Association of America
asking him to stop, McGaughey allegedly moved his site overseas.

He was accused of profiting through advertising and links on the site.

The case against him stemmed from an FBI investigation.

[MartoufMarty]

Wow.

They need to update their info! It doesn't air on Showtime, and I never heard of it airing on UPN.

Wow though. I remember when I first became a Stargate SG-1 fan downloading episodes from his site...

[DJFavorite]

Wow.

They need to update their info! It doesn't air on Showtime, and I never heard of it airing on UPN.

Wow though. I remember when I first became a Stargate SG-1 fan downloading episodes from his site...

SG1 airs on UPN in sydincation.

Perhaps the reason they mention Showtime and not SciFi, is perhaps when they started the investigation, it was on Showtime and the reporter is only giving out the facts as it is written in FBI investigation reports.

[MartoufMarty]

SG1 airs on UPN in sydincation.

Perhaps the reason they mention Showtime and not SciFi, is perhaps when they started the investigation, it was on Showtime and the reporter is only giving out the facts as it is written in FBI investigation reports.

Ah. I never knew that it aired on UPN. I know that sometimes it's on FOX and CBS and half a dozen Canadian channels at any given time. I swear I can find Stargate SG-1 on every hour, of every day almost. On day we just sort of watched Stargate on NTV, then Global, and Space and CH, and the other CH channel.

[Erik Pasternak]

Ah. I never knew that it aired on UPN. I know that sometimes it's on FOX and CBS and half a dozen Canadian channels at any given time. I swear I can find Stargate SG-1 on every hour, of every day almost. On day we just sort of watched Stargate on NTV, then Global, and Space and CH, and the other CH channel.

Lucky. I wish SG-1 would be on all the time here.