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[jelgate]

Killing billy is not your strong suit either. Given he is alive

[Nolamom]

But I *do* get pleasure from it

[Annoyed]

Killing billy is not your strong suit either. Given he is alive

But I *do* get pleasure from it

See? That is good example of what is wrong with our schools today. The results don't matter, just the attempt. A failed attempt is considered as good as a successful one.

[Falcon Horus]

See? That is good example of what is wrong with our schools today. The results don't matter, just the attempt. A failed attempt is considered as good as a successful one.

And no degree means trouble on the jobmarket... so succes is preferred.

[Annoyed]

And no degree means trouble on the jobmarket... so succes is preferred.

This was supposed to be just busting Lolamom's chops, she seems to take a lot of heat for being a teacher.. But this is actually a legitimate issue
Not by many of the schools.. they're afraid of hurting little johnny's self esteem or some such by giving a failing grade.

[jelgate]

This was supposed to be just busting Lolamom's chops, she seems to take a lot of heat for being a teacher.. But this is actually a legitimate issue
Not by many of the schools.. they're afraid of hurting little johnny's self esteem or some such by giving a failing grade.

That's mostly me. And they mostly half truths. I believe a lot what I say about teaching but have exaggerated them to such extremes that they are insane.

[Nolamom]

that's true enough - the exaggeration part

as for hurting little johnny's self-esteem - BAH! if he can't handle the work, he needs to get out of my class. I will allow anyone to fail who doesn't meet standards. I do call parents to let them know that little johnny isn't doing his work or doesn't study for tests or whatever excuse they happen to have, and then I let them have the grades that they earn. Like Jel, I'm a strong believer in facing reality. I was an office manager for nearly 20 years before becoming a teacher. I wouldn't let an employee get away with shoddy or no work, and I won't let a student either. There are consequences to both actions and INactions. I say let 'em have it!

[jelgate]

What about the kids who is trying but despite his/her effort can't get it? I had a friend like that who I was tutoring in Pre-Calc who gave the hardest but was only getting a C.

[Nolamom]

a C is passing. I give students extra help if they're trying. I get to work at 7:30 - school doesn't start until 8:50 - I'm available for tutoring. BUT, they have to make the effort. Also, I'm available during lunch and for a very limited time after school. My AC goes off by 4:15 and it gets hotter than blazes very quickly in my room.

[jelgate]

I guess a C is technically passing. It still would be unacceptable in my family

[Annoyed]

that's true enough - the exaggeration part

as for hurting little johnny's self-esteem - BAH! if he can't handle the work, he needs to get out of my class. I will allow anyone to fail who doesn't meet standards. I do call parents to let them know that little johnny isn't doing his work or doesn't study for tests or whatever excuse they happen to have, and then I let them have the grades that they earn. Like Jel, I'm a strong believer in facing reality. I was an office manager for nearly 20 years before becoming a teacher. I wouldn't let an employee get away with shoddy or no work, and I won't let a student either. There are consequences to both actions and INactions. I say let 'em have it!

You may be an exception to what is becoming the rule these days, particularly in the more liberal states like NY.

[Falcon Horus]

This was supposed to be just busting Lolamom's chops...

Oops...

That's mostly me. And they mostly half truths. I believe a lot what I say about teaching but have exaggerated them to such extremes that they are insane.

He does.

as for hurting little johnny's self-esteem - BAH! if he can't handle the work, he needs to get out of my class. I will allow anyone to fail who doesn't meet standards. I do call parents to let them know that little johnny isn't doing his work or doesn't study for tests or whatever excuse they happen to have, and then I let them have the grades that they earn. Like Jel, I'm a strong believer in facing reality. I was an office manager for nearly 20 years before becoming a teacher. I wouldn't let an employee get away with shoddy or no work, and I won't let a student either. There are consequences to both actions and INactions. I say let 'em have it!

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I think I might have liked you - what do you teach?

What about the kids who is trying but despite his/her effort can't get it? I had a friend like that who I was tutoring in Pre-Calc who gave the hardest but was only getting a C.

Or when the student performs great during the year and then exams roll around and all goes to hell in a handbasket no matter how hard they studied or the time they put into the effort...

I guess a C is technically passing. It still would be unacceptable in my family

Classified as a fail in my family - most definitely.

[jelgate]

Or when the student performs great during the year and then exams roll around and all goes to hell in a handbasket no matter how hard they studied or the time they put into the effort...

Reminds me of my Physics exam where I failed but passed the class because my other work was good

[Meaghan]

And that's why I never took Physics and why I would never want to be a teacher at anything below university level.....

[jelgate]

It was university level and I found Physics pretty easy for most part. I just made some stupid mistakes on the exam. I was good at math and story problems which is about 80% understanding of Physics