Just Shoot 'em

[delta1135]

There were so many times in Atlantis when I wish that Sheppard had taken Ronan's side and just went on a killing spree. Especially in the episode Irresponsible I wish that Sheppard just shot Lucius. There was almost never enough foot action in Atlantis. When I say foot, I mean with the P90s and stuff. Does this irritate anybody else?

[dasNdanger]

Nearly every ep was a shooting spree, with Wraith as cannon fodder. It really got old after a while. I think that's why eps like Common Ground - that didn't have the predictable 'shoot 'em up' ending - were such favorites.


das

[Khentkawes]

Actually... no, that never irritated me. There were times when I wished that they would come up with diplomatic solutions or when I wished that they would come up with more interesting solutions. But generally, there was enough "shoot 'em up" action for me.

To me, it seemed like shooting things (or blowing them up) was their defeat solution for dealing with any problem.

spoilers for season 5's Identity

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what really got to me was when they solved the problem in Identity simply by shooting the Ancient communication device. In SG-1, when they had the same device, they didn't think that physically destroying the device would necessarily turn it off, but in Atlantis it's all "well, let's just shoot it." That was definitely an episode where I wished they had come up with something more creative.

[Descended Alteran]

Actually... no, that never irritated me. There were times when I wished that they would come up with diplomatic solutions or when I wished that they would come up with more interesting solutions. But generally, there was enough "shoot 'em up" action for me.

To me, it seemed like shooting things (or blowing them up) was their defeat solution for dealing with any problem.

spoilers for season 5's Identity

Spoiler:

what really got to me was when they solved the problem in Identity simply by shooting the Ancient communication device. In SG-1, when they had the same device, they didn't think that physically destroying the device would necessarily turn it off, but in Atlantis it's all "well, let's just shoot it." That was definitely an episode where I wished they had come up with something more creative.

Regarding the spoiler-tagged text

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I think that the sole reason why gunfire was used to sever the connection between Keller and the rogue was that Ronon simply acted on his own...without approval from the others so to speak

[Seythia]

I think Sci-Fi could do with even less P90 action.
Machine guns sound too violent in my ears and if they absolutely -have- to kill everything that'sin their way, then they should do it with weapons in Star Trek style. Not that much noise

I'd be happier with less killing, though.

[ciannwn]

Nearly every ep was a shooting spree, with Wraith as cannon fodder. It really got old after a while. I think that's why eps like Common Ground - that didn't have the predictable 'shoot 'em up' ending - were such favorites.


das

Have to agree with you here. I got really fed up with the idea that heroism is all about running around with guns and causing big explosions.

Having said that, I would have cheered if Sheppard had shot Lucius instead of Kolya.

[talyn2k1]

I've always been a fan of the shooting, but imho there must be a balance between shooting stuff to pieces and coming up with more creative solutions. Action is great but it can never be a substitute for good story telling.

In SG-1, I think they had this balance. I think Atlantis fell a little short and all too often it was a matter of shooting their way out of it.

I think some of the best action scenes in Stargate are shooting scenes. Scenes in "Enemies" and "Threads" come instantly to mind.

[Inquisitor]

continuing on with the spoilers of the season 5 ep..

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I thought they said it would have taken too long to get the device the gate?

[Descended Alteran]

continuing on with the spoilers of the season 5 ep..

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I thought they said it would have taken too long to get the device the gate?

They

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did, my point was only that Ronon acted on his own, without any approval/orders from Sheppard when he shot the device

[Lt. Col. John_Sheppard]

Well, I think that the producers anticipated that viewers wanted shoot-em-up episodes. It seemed like every season had one just for that purpose, such as 'Sateda' or 'Midway'.

[Cautious Explorer]

For me there's a world of difference between just shooting at feeble Wraith and watching them fall down like dominoes or watching static big ships like the Daedalus shoot it out in space, and real action.

I love action where the team is actively evading ground forces that are skilled enough to pose a real threat (season one Wraith) or evading other ships in a little puddlejumper.

TPTB seemed too caught up in explosions and ship battles just for the sake of throwing in some CGI effects, or having the team wander around hive ships with hardly any shooting, or a token few shots that take out all the Wraith at once and make them look totally ineffective as adversaries. But that's all comes back to lazy writing.

[ciannwn]

For me there's a world of difference between just shooting at feeble Wraith and watching them fall down like dominoes or watching static big ships like the Daedalus shoot it out in space, and real action.

At least Sateda had the Uber-Wraith who had to be taken out with a drone.

[amokay]

For me there's a world of difference between just shooting at feeble Wraith and watching them fall down like dominoes or watching static big ships like the Daedalus shoot it out in space, and real action.

I love action where the team is actively evading ground forces that are skilled enough to pose a real threat (season one Wraith) or evading other ships in a little puddlejumper.

TPTB seemed too caught up in explosions and ship battles just for the sake of throwing in some CGI effects, or having the team wander around hive ships with hardly any shooting, or a token few shots that take out all the Wraith at once and make them look totally ineffective as adversaries. But that's all comes back to lazy writing.

Agreed , well except for the ship battles part. To this day the first season's mid two parter The storm/ The eye are in to me in the top five best Atlantis episodes while Sateda is just plain and simple the worst Stargate episode ever( the only Stargate episode I actually stopped watching because it was so BAD)

[Atlantis1]

There were so many times in Atlantis when I wish that Sheppard had taken Ronan's side and just went on a killing spree. Especially in the episode Irresponsible I wish that Sheppard just shot Lucius. There was almost never enough foot action in Atlantis. When I say foot, I mean with the P90s and stuff. Does this irritate anybody else?

This would have been totally out of character for Sheppard. Storm/Eye episodes I understand but more of it as in the way I understand you explaining would have killed the show.

[delta1135]

Agreed , well except for the ship battles part. To this day the first season's mid two parter The storm/ The eye are in to me in the top five best Atlantis episodes while Sateda is just plain and simple the worst Stargate episode ever( the only Stargate episode I actually stopped watching because it was so BAD)

Really? Sateda was one of my favorite. The Storm/Eye were good but not the best, IMO.