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    Default Daedalus vs. Andromeda

    I know for a fact that the Andromeda would win the battle with Daedalus because it fast, very good slip fighters. The Andromeda has plenty of Nova Bombs which are better than the Daedelus missiles, naq. enhanced bombs.

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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    i thought nova bombs worked by destabalizing stars and makin them go boom. what good would that do against a ship? slipfightes are nice though. lots of missles. not sure what effect AP cannons would have against daedulus' shields. just not enough info i don't think to call it though.
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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    I've only seen a handful of Andromeda eps., but do you really think it could take down the Upgraded Odyssey, or just S3's Daedalus? What if Daedalus can launch a "Horizon" w/ 6 Mk. 9 Naquadriah-enhanced nuclear weapons? Each Mk. 9 can yield a multi-gigaton explosion creating a country-sized explosion. They collectively create an explosion that's encompasses a good part of an Earth-sized planet.

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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    They have shields, right?

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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    The Andromeda has no shields but can take a whole lot of a beating.

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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    Well then, beam a nuke, the end.

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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Ripple in Space View Post
    I've only seen a handful of Andromeda eps., but do you really think it could take down the Upgraded Odyssey, or just S3's Daedalus? What if Daedalus can launch a "Horizon" w/ 6 Mk. 9 Naquadriah-enhanced nuclear weapons? Each Mk. 9 can yield a multi-gigaton explosion creating a country-sized explosion. They collectively create an explosion that's encompasses a good part of an Earth-sized planet.
    I HATE andromeda as a series but the ship would kill either effortlessly.

    Before it was turned into a farce, or even made into a show, a bunch of really smart guys actually got together and thought out a plan for a practical sci-fi warship that would pay reasonable respect to realism but also be a deadly weapon of war.

    The Andromeda was what resulted. It's a sci-fi warship a warship designer as opposed to a writer would build. To come up with it they mostly looked at the way things like actual modern submarine, naval and aircraft combat go on and tried to extrapolate it into a sci-fi setting.

    The thing flies around at sizable fractions of the speed of light in combat, flipping around like a fighter, and fires fist sized missiles at .99C at the rate of a couple hundred per second. The missiles have ranges measured in light seconds or fractions of a solar system (AUs) for smart missiles. They vary in yeild from nuclear to "a fleet of ships firing the bigger ones can explode an entire planet".

    The Daedalus, and even the Odyssey are so outclassed here it's not even a contest. Neither ship has point defence lasers, ECM, Stealth capabilities or interceptor drones (all mandatory in Andromedaverse combat) so every single missile is going to hit them, including the hugely nasty ones that can blow apart entire planets in sufficient numbers.

    As much as I hate the series the ship from Androemda pretty much smacks the ass of almost every other ship in any popular TV sci-fi series, and those that it can't it can run away from for effectively forever.

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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    Quote Originally Posted by PG15 View Post
    Well then, beam a nuke, the end.
    I doubt even this would work. It runs both active and passive jamming/sensor disruption in combat and I doubt the Daedalus would even be able to get in teleporter range before being blown apart.

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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    daedelus has subspace comms, but does it have subspace sensors? if it does, don't think the andromeda's jammers would work on those. andromeda comms and sensor tech are still limited to the EM spectrum.

    does andromeda have enough missles to eventually bring down daedulus' shields? dunno. not sure how much damage her missles can do or the max the daedulus' shields can take. andromeda does have a massive amount of missles though and they could add up to enough.

    can daedulus still use beaming tech? not sure

    with auto-repair systems, can the daedulus' railguns do damage faster than andromeda can patch the holes? beats me.

    can daelulus' missles make it through andromeda's PDLs and defensive missles? probably not

    tbh, all these VS threads are getting old. they keep comparing things too different from each other. each side has some thing that can kick the snot out of the side, but only if the other side isn't allowed to do something or another that they wouldn't normally do anyways or they digress into an argument about something else.
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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    Imagine Andromeda getting annoyed with SG earth :O


    one nova bomb bye bye earth nothing earth has can stop that

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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    Nope, but SG humans can blow up a star too though.
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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    Quote Originally Posted by 123NotIt View Post
    Nope, but SG humans can blow up a star too though.
    But they need a stargate, on the other hand the Andromeda can fire a missile to the sun.

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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    in either case, star still goes boom. be it by nova bomb, active stargate dialed into a black hole, artificially collapsed into a black hole, detonating a tainted ZPM, intentionally letting project arcturus become unstable, etc. everything in a system goes bye bye. each side is capable of destruction on a massive scale.
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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Amb. Shepphard(ARC) View Post
    I know for a fact that the Andromeda would win the battle with Daedalus because it fast, very good slip fighters. The Andromeda has plenty of Nova Bombs which are better than the Daedelus missiles, naq. enhanced bombs.
    So why make a thread in the first place?

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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    Quote Originally Posted by 123NotIt View Post
    daedelus has subspace comms, but does it have subspace sensors? if it does, don't think the andromeda's jammers would work on those. andromeda comms and sensor tech are still limited to the EM spectrum.

    does andromeda have enough missles to eventually bring down daedulus' shields? dunno. not sure how much damage her missles can do or the max the daedulus' shields can take. andromeda does have a massive amount of missles though and they could add up to enough.

    can daedulus still use beaming tech? not sure

    with auto-repair systems, can the daedulus' railguns do damage faster than andromeda can patch the holes? beats me.

    can daelulus' missles make it through andromeda's PDLs and defensive missles? probably not

    tbh, all these VS threads are getting old. they keep comparing things too different from each other. each side has some thing that can kick the snot out of the side, but only if the other side isn't allowed to do something or another that they wouldn't normally do anyways or they digress into an argument about something else.
    The Daelulus has no subspace sensors.

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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    Quote Originally Posted by jenks View Post
    So why make a thread in the first place?
    Because I like both shows and I like thinking about ships from different shows getting into battle with each other and to see what other people say.

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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    Androemda pretty much smacks the ass of almost every other ship in any popular TV sci-fi series, and those that it can't it can run away from for effectively forever.
    Would it beat Galactica? (I'm asking Ouroboros specifically).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripple in Space View Post
    Would it beat Galactica? (I'm asking Ouroboros specifically).
    galactica is a p***sy compared to most sci fi ships imo, if the shielded deadalus and uber Odysessy can't take on andromeda then Galactica sure as hell can't....heck deadalus would own galactica

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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    Quote Originally Posted by 123NotIt View Post
    Nope, but SG humans can blow up a star too though.
    Andromeda has enough nova bombs to blow up 40 suns, and she can mount them on her FTL capable fighters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ripple In Space
    Would it beat Galactica? (I'm asking Ouroboros specifically).
    What do you think?

    Yes, I doubt poor Adama would even know he was under attack before it got him. Their dradis might not even detect Andromeda through her passive stealth measures.

    You could probably take every ship in the BSG show from both sides, stick them in a massive fleet together and the Andromeda would still kill them all in a matter of minutes.

    I'm serious, it really is that superior.

    It could probably do something not to dissimilar to a stargate fleet. Some of the gate ships have weapons that could potentially damage it but they'll never ever hit it with those slow moving blobs they fire, not a chance in hell.

    To Andromeda point blank knife fight range is considered to be 4 light seconds, the range where it's AP canons are useful. Normal combat ranges are typically light minutes. Nothing in gate or BSG can even come close to touching that.

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    Default Re: Daedelus vs. The Andromeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    Andromeda has enough nova bombs to blow up 40 suns, and she can mount them on her FTL capable fighters.



    What do you think?

    Yes, I doubt poor Adama would even know he was under attack before it got him. Their dradis might not even detect Andromeda through her passive stealth measures.

    You could probably take every ship in the BSG show from both sides, stick them in a massive fleet together and the Andromeda would still kill them all in a matter of minutes.

    I'm serious, it really is that superior.

    It could probably do something not to dissimilar to a stargate fleet. Some of the gate ships have weapons that could potentially damage it but they'll never ever hit it with those slow moving blobs they fire, not a chance in hell.

    To Andromeda point blank knife fight range is considered to be 4 light seconds, the range where it's AP canons are useful. Normal combat ranges are typically light minutes. Nothing in gate or BSG can even come close to touching that.
    ok how does it compare to the best star wars has to offer?
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