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    I though the whole science vs religion thing between the Alterans and the Ori was kind of dumb and blatant. I also didn't like the explanation that the Ori magically get more power the more people that worship them. I though that was kind of a lame explanation; I was hoping for something more climactic. That said, I'm glad that Gossett was able to show the internal strife Gerak had going on while converting. It wouldn't have been so clean-cut.
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    He probably is but I won't miss him much. He's kind of dry and monotonous.

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    GENERAL HAMMOND!!!! That was my jubilant exclamation the moment his voice was heard. I really hadn't been expecting him. I wasn't paying attention to the guest cast when it started, so both him and Bra'tac came as pleasant surprizes to me.

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    It was awesome being Bra'tac and Hammond again. I know we probably won't see Hammond much, but I hope Bra'tac can continue to be a semi-regular. I love that character.

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    I have one thing to say after watching The Fourth Horseman.....WHERE'S MY DANIEL?
    It amazes me that the writers have been utilizing Michael Shanks talents so little in the last couple of episodes. This is the actor that the writers knew was the ONLY ONE who could pull off episodes such as Lifeboat. Here I am watching this episode and I keep thinking, Where the frak is Daniel? No mention of him off on some assignment. Just this unexplained absence that stood out like a sore thumb. I left after the ending shaking my head, very disappointed. Thank God we had some eps like Avalon 1 & 2, Origin and TPTB this season that I can watch over and over again because it's unlikely I would want to watch this ep very many times. Writers of Stargate SG-1... Michael Shanks is STAR material. You are blowing it by putting him in the background.

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    I liked this episode instantly as soon as I saw Bra'tac and Hammond.


    Also I find it nice that Sam had something to do and Daniel took the back seat, considering the 1st few episodes were basicly the Daniel and Vala show.

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    Is it just me or Is Bra'tac looking healthier and younger?
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    Yes, I was very pleased with this ep, too! Loved seeing Orlin again, even if it wasn't adult Orlin! He's still so cool. I hate to think of him dying, but they pretty much said he would with Sam's comment "this is a one way trip for you ..." Very sad.

    I liked that Gerak faltered when it came to attacking Chulak. It shows he does have some semblence of a conscience. However, he was very creepy as a prior!!

    Glad we got so many answers about the Ori & the Alterans. I wasn't too terribly surprised to hear that the Ori are basically lying to everyone & feeding off of their believers, but I had kind of hoped they wouldn't be so incredibly evil. It is more interesting to fight an enemy with good intentions, but major philosophical differences. Well, I guess we still have that with the priors. Can we turn them? Hmmmm ...

    I so wanted Cam to win the fight with the sodan. Then he could have said something like, "now can we talk?!" Oh well.

    Hate, hate HATE having to wait until January to see the second half!! Waaahhhhh!! (But I did watch the 2nd have of Threshhold--looked very interesting. Could be a good substitute until SG1 is back ...)

    I agree with others before me: A for Prototype, B++ for Fourth Horseman

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarshAngel
    Is it just me or Is Bra'tac looking healthier and younger?
    I agree. Of course, he did lose the rubber hat ...

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    I'm glad we finally have a decent answer to why the ancients don't interfere. The more they get involved in human affairs, the more the humans look to them with devotion, the more they get accustomed to the power they get from it, the more likely they are to be come drunk on it.
    Despite the predictability of the Ori gaining power from their worshippers, that aspect worked to the benefit of explaining the ascended ancients.
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    Great episode. Good to see General Hammond and Bra'tac. I almost didn't reconize Bra'tac without his helmet. I figure it was Orin when we saw someone watching Sam.

    But my question, though it might been mentioned, did the Ancients send Orin to help us out just this once to get us on the right tract?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greytop
    Great episode. Good to see General Hammond and Bra'tac. I almost didn't reconize Bra'tac without his helmet. I figure it was Orin when we saw someone watching Sam.

    But my question, though it might been mentioned, did the Ancients send Orin to help us out just this once to get us on the right tract?
    Orlin said that enough of them thought it was necessary....so I guess they just agreed to look the other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kharn the betrayer
    Also I find it nice that Sam had something to do and Daniel took the back seat, considering the 1st few episodes were basicly the Daniel and Vala show.
    Correction: The Micheal Shanks Show starring Micheal Shanks and Claudia Black (and a bunch of other people)

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    Overall, I liked this. I'm disappointed that the Ori aren't actually bringing their followers to enlightenment. I thought that aspect set them apart from the Goa'uld. And I'm hoping that Gerak's transformation isn't permanent, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

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    I thought Daniel may take few turns on the Ascending machine, so he could be kinda super human. That would have been cool.
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    I thought 'Prototype' was great and 'The Fourth Horseman: Part 1' was good except, except, except for Cameron Blight. He suuuuuucked as Orlin. No emotion at all. His performance totally took me out of the episode. I bought the whole "child" thing used to explain why Sean wasn't there, but they could have got someone better to do it. That just happens to be the way that I feel about it. What do you...oh wait, that's a quote, never mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGateFan
    Orlin said that enough of them thought it was necessary....so I guess they just agreed to look the other way.
    I guess then he had volunteered to come, since he knew Sam.

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    I really enjoyed this episode - A grade from me. Both episodes just felt "right" - like the show finally hit on all cylinders.

    But I now have to wait until January???

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    Thought the Forth Horsemen was great and Prototype excellent.
    The team was back together!
    Really liking Bill Lee, great addition.
    Nice to see Hammond and Bratac back again.

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    The only thing that bothered me about the episode was Gerek in a small way... going from beach head where he was trying to eliminate them to all of a sudden wanting to accept the ori was alil weird i thought.. HOWEVER I really loved the episode awesome absolutely awesome! i thought it was REALLY funny ( i cant believe no one caught this) when that Lt. from the under cover unit said he wanted a spong bath from Dr. Lam and the Col. said "better not say that around the General" and Col. Michtil said and def. not around me! Meaning because In REAL LIFE THATS HIS WIFE! that was funny!

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