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I didn't read that part. That would be pretty weird seeing asOriginally posted by KEK View PostSpoiler:Comment
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Originally posted by Selene1212 View PostI don't think we'll see any more time traveling and/or alt. universe story lines until maybe the last two episodes of the season. It's a sci fi show, but you can't have too many of those in each season.Spoiler:Comment
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Agreed.Originally posted by jelgate View Post
As far as anyone knows, solar flare business affects wormholes and not whatever happens to be touching the gate. He can't plan something that's inherently unpredictable."A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in. Good people do things for other people. That's it, the end." -- Penelope Wilton in Ricky Gervais's After LifeComment
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I don't think Rush needed to sabotage. He already got what he needed with people volunteering to stay onboard. Too much risk in planning something like that with little reward.Comment
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He warned them repeatedly about the unpredictable nature of the whole plan, and wanted a volunteer crew to stay behind with him, so, no, I don't think he planned any of it.sigpicComment
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On the one hand, I don't think there is any way he could have planned for the right kind of solar activity to send him back in time just so he and the other Rush could get supplies.
On the other hand, we only have his word that there were ever any volunteers to stay with him - remember, the entire alternative time story is told by Alt!Rush. Maybe everyone left?
On the third hand (what? this is science fiction, 3 hands are plausible), all we have to do is ask Future!Telford (the one alive and back on Earth) what happened - his story should match up with what Alt!Rush said. Unless Telford just wants Rush to look bad, and lies.
My head is hurting. Damn time travel episodes.sigpic
Goodbye and Good Travels, Destiny!Comment
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I don't think that the "older Rush" was completely innocent. I only think this because even "younger Rush" wasn't buying it. With, on Younger Rush's side, only a few minutes difference (older rush is OLDER than younger rush is YOUNGER...does that make sense?), he would be the best of us all on getting a sense of truth.
Younger Rush is more qualified to judge, than any of us, and he was REALLY weary !!!
Anyways, regardless of complete (complete) innocence....I think both Rush's are truly good. And "Chair" Rush is gonna be really really important IMO.
Love love love this episode.sigpicTeal'c: "Appearances may be deceiving."
O'Neill: "One man's ceiling is another man's floor."
Daniel: "A fool's paradise is a wise man's hell."
O'Neill: "Never run with...scissors?"Comment
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He lacks the "vision" necessary to even attempt something like that. As a sociopath, his main instinct is survival.Comment
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I don't think he's a sociopath. I mean he doesn't mind lying to people and manipulating them, but that's just his pragmatism. Sociopaths are emotionally retarded, they don't empathise like normal people and they don't feel remorse, I think we've seen that that isn't really the case with Rush. He's driven in what he wants to do, but the tough decisions he has to make weight heavy on him, he doesn't sacrifice other people for her personal gain on a whim. He doesn't really go looking for kicks either, which is another sign.
I'd say Baltar was a classic sociopath, but I really don't think Rush is.Comment
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The ONLY reason i could see him doing it, is that he was not satisfied with just 12.. he wanted all to stay.Originally posted by SBN View PostComment
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From Rush's point of view, and how he classes the crew, i would say 12 are for the specialists who can help him, the rest are dead weight and not of any use to Rush in the calibre he is requiring.
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Looking at the folks who chose to stay, I'd think Rush would have liked to have seen a few more scientists and a few less red shirts. Heck, there was no Brody. Who would keep the still going?
I suspect that Rush did not plan this (at all) based on the scene in the chair room. Rush 1 (from the start of the episode) asks Rush 2 (from the soon to be destroyed Destiny), "what really happened?" If Rush 2 had a plan, Rush 1 would have had the same plan. If Rush 2 had carried out that plan, Rush 1 would know that events were probably the result of that plan. So, he would not have said, "What really happened?", he would rather have said, "What went wrong?"
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Baltar was shown many times suffering the guilt of his descions, much more so then Rush ever has been.Originally posted by KEK View Post
The difference between them is that Baltar was tricked into his part of the destruction on the colonies and had no intent at all for it to happen, and he was held at gunpoint on New Caprica, events were always outside of his direct control.
Whereas Rush deliberately and knowing the likely outcome, sent the Icarus personnel through the gate to an unknown location rather then Earth, Rush chose to hide the bridge from the crew for months so that he could maintain control of the ship, the only time Rush has really shown guilt was when the 2nd Rush killed Telford, and I would say that was purely self interest because he knew no one would believe it was an accident.
I wouldn't consider either of them to be sociopaths, they are both just selfish jerkasses. However of the two I would say that Rush is definately the worst.Comment
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