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    #46
    Originally posted by geddarkstorm View Post
    Well... no, actually. It's completely reasonable that the Destiny's shields can handle a star and not do so well against the drone weapons, for two reasons:

    1) A star's energy is heat (electromagnetic waves). There is some drag, and thus frictional forces, but to such a smaller degree we can ignore them. Now, it's concievable the Destiny's shields are designed in such a way that they can handle electromagnetic radiation with ease. It's like how different grades of steel handle different stresses differently. High temperature steel can handle the inside of a fusion reactor where normal steel would melt. While normal steel can handle the high compression and tensile forces of being in a bridge that would immediately snap the more brittle high temperature steel. They are both types of steel, but they can absorb different pressures orders of magnitude differently.

    If Destiny's shields are tuned to deal with the types of energy and -frequencies- of waves it'll encounter in a star, it may be, therefore, extremely susceptible to other types of energy. We have no idea what the drone's weapons are, nor even what the Destiny's are.

    2) How force, pressure, energy and power work. A star gives off massive amounts of energy, yes, but for any given area of a star, it has a lot less POWER than you'd think, because the ENERGY DENSITY is low. A star is obscenely huge, and the full output of a star is averaged over the entirety of its size. So in reality, the small area the Destiny represents is only going to be exposed a very small fraction of that energy and power. This is why, with femtosecond lasers, we can deliver more power to a small area than the output of the sun!

    Let me give another example. You can dive many meters under the ocean, to where you have hundreds of pounds of pressure per square inch applied on you, yet you'll be completely fine (the only danger to the human body is having pressure suddenly relieved, not applied, over its entirety. This has to do with how fluids are incompressible, thus we are too being mostly fluid). However, a knife will slice through you like butter when only orders of magnitude less amounts of force (energy) is applied than the entire ocean was giving while you were doing that dive. Why? Because the force of the knife's edge is being applied over an extremely small area; and while the compressive and tensile strength of the entire body can take large amounts of PSI, any given SMALL AREA of the body has greatly reduced strength.

    Tap your arm with a finger; you don't cut and are completely fine. Now tap your arm with the same force but using a needle. Yeah, get my point yet?

    Destiny is in the same situation. Having the energy of a vanishingly small section of a star applied over its (almost) entire surface area is far easier for the shields to handle, than a much smaller amount of energy that's applied over an even smaller amount of area. The total energy density and power of the drone shots can, for that reason alone, well exceed anything a star could ever do; simply because the shot is concentrated at a small spot.

    Again, this is how lasers work in the real world. This is why kilowatt lasers can heat things above the temperature of the sun. The sun sure as heck outputs more than a kilowatt! But it's the amount of AREA that an energy/force is applied to, and the amount of time (power) that the energy is applied for that determines the amount of stress an object actually experiences. Remember, power = energy/time. Even a small amount of energy given over a small amount of time can be as POWERFUL as orders of magnitude more energy that's given over orders of magnitude more time. So, it's actually very easy to exceed the sun itself in POWER, with our current technology (many fusion experiments have used this principle, and so too does the LHC in its experiments to recreate the big bang)!
    Very interesting info. Thanks for that post. Good reading.
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      #47
      Originally posted by Buck32 View Post
      In your opinion.
      Thats stating the obvious. All the posts in this thread are opinions
      Originally posted by aretood2
      Jelgate is right

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        #48
        Doesn't matter what they are trying to do, its getting cancelled.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Sami_ View Post
          Doesn't matter what they are trying to do, its getting cancelled.
          I hope you aren't right :/

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            #50
            Originally posted by Sami_ View Post
            Doesn't matter what they are trying to do, its getting canceled.
            Not necessarily - there's still quite a bit of hope yet... DVR numbers are OK to good.... plus MGM is making money from the DVD sales, online episodes, etc. and that might help them fund the next season even without the extra investments from Sci-fi.

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              #51
              I'm pretty sure he just explained why it was ridiculous.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Sami_ View Post
                Doesn't matter what they are trying to do, its getting cancelled.
                Yes, if you looked at the viewership, SGU is poor, but the last two eps had 0.5 ratings higher than the last two Sanctuary eps' 0.4 ratings.

                Not mention SGU fights alone, and Sanctuary loses half of the viewers from the previous hour in every ep.

                SGU is not doing well but so as other shows like Sanctuary.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by pipi View Post
                  Destiny's shields can only survive in the Sun because it is recharging at the same time. So I would assume that its battery capacity is quite small or inefficient. Even modern day rechargable batteries can only be recharged x200 times or something before they are useless.

                  Destiny is a rust bucket in space terms.
                  With that said, Destiny can only charge to 40% capacity. So even while in the star, Destiny is only channeling 40% power to shields, this is enough to survive the star. So why not be able to handle weapon fire from a couple drones?

                  oh yes I know, writers lol
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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Replicator Todd View Post
                    I fail to see and grow tiresome of these BSG to SGU comparisons. The two shows have very different storylines and characters.
                    I am tired of those comparisons as well. They are both very different shows, and great in their own ways.
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                      #55
                      Originally posted by the fifth man View Post
                      I am tired of those comparisons as well. They are both very different shows, and great in their own ways.
                      but the threads mostly how destiny can't stand on it's million year old feet during a battle. but unlike destiny galatica can she was only 50+ years old and was repaired after the wars..
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by SGeff View Post
                        Yes, if you looked at the viewership, SGU is poor, but the last two eps had 0.5 ratings higher than the last two Sanctuary eps' 0.4 ratings.

                        Not mention SGU fights alone, and Sanctuary loses half of the viewers from the previous hour in every ep.

                        SGU is not doing well but so as other shows like Sanctuary.
                        Sanctuary is cheaper.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Sami_ View Post
                          Sanctuary is cheaper.
                          Indeed, you would think with the amount of CGI in it though it wouldn't be.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Replicator Todd View Post
                            Indeed, you would think with the amount of CGI in it though it wouldn't be.
                            No sets to build and a lot less location shooting saves a lot of money
                            Originally posted by aretood2
                            Jelgate is right

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                              #59
                              "It's a rust-bucket, what can I tell you?"

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                                #60
                                Destiny is clearly more than 50 million years old, not as a 'million' or 'hundreds of thousands years old' as Rush claimed. So the ship is bound to fail anyway.

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