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Originally posted by Descended View PostPutting Chloe in the chair was just stupid and Young was crazy to believe that garbage excuse about eliminating alien matter. They were so worried about the alien in Chloe studying the ship that they locked her up and then they stuck her in the machine which gives you mental control over the whole damn thing (if used properly) - Young should have seen that Rush had another reason for putting her in the chair. I think he wanted to give her more information about the ship so he could use her to gain better control.
Originally posted by Shai Hulud View PostAgreed Rush isnt sleeping either and driving himself till exhaustion, thats not going to do much good for his mental state either.
It will be interesting to see if Chloe can now see the ships manifestations, having been plonked into the chair - no bloody temples for her, perhaps a sign of her metamorphosis?
As to chloe.. i doubt that 2-3 seconds she was there did enough of anything to put her mind into the system. Especially since BOTH brody and rush were monitoring what was going on.
Originally posted by Aurora24 View Post
The whole thing with Chloe, however, is going beyond what could be considered justifiable. Chloe is changing in a way that no one understands. Rush claiming she is cured not only puts Chloe in quite a bit of unknown danger, but potentially puts him and everyone on the ship in danger if what she changes into becomes a threat.
Originally posted by Kaiphantom View PostYeah, more convinced now that Rush is talking to the ship, in a manner of speaking. But even if he isn't, the fact that he's inwardly questioning his actions, shows he's more sane than anyone else aboard. Probably helps that deep down, he knows he's doing the right thing.
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Originally posted by Kaiphantom View PostToo bad that everyone will pretty much realize that Rush was right all along when knowledge of the bridge and the ship's mission become known. In light of that, Rush has been doing the right thing all along. ;pSpoiler:yes it seems he is right, but that also only shows Young agreeing to it. Who is to know whether the rest of the crew are let into the 'secret'
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Originally posted by maylet View PostAnd his ego won't let him ask for help, this it's why I hate Rush, he doesn't care how much people die or the sacrifices he makes just to get what he wants, he doesn't want to get them home, he wants Destiny for himself.
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Originally posted by Kaiphantom View PostI think I'm leaning to the fact that the "hallucinations" are actually leftovers from the chair experience. That it has somehow linked him to the ship. Case in point: Rush has only ever "hallucinated" on the bridge; why hasn't he seen them anywhere else?
So, Rush isn't crazy, or sociopathic, or psychopathic. He's functioning on a logical, pragmatic decision-making process. One that is possibly altered by torture, lack of sleep, possible alien modification, and the ship having some effect on his mind as well.
In that light, it's hard to blame him for much. Especially since, legally speaking, he's innocent of any involvement in Riley's death (at best, Young would bear sole responsibility).
Originally posted by iCeltic View PostI think the primary motive for all Rush's behavior is his desire to complete the destiny mission, not returning to earth.
He tries to frame Young and he kept the control room secret for the same reason, if the other people find about the room all what they do is trying to get home, and Rush want to go forward to complete the mission.
Originally posted by the fifth man View PostRush may not be actually crazy, but he definitely has major issues. He should know better than to try and handle all of this by himself. He could end up screwing up big time, and the consequences would affect everyone on-board Destiny.
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Originally posted by jelgate View PostAgreed. A piece of technology that could enhance life on Destiny for the crew and he is keeping it to himself. That doesn't seem right to me.
Originally posted by maylet View PostAnd his ego won't let him ask for help, this it's why I hate Rush, he doesn't care how much people die or the sacrifices he makes just to get what he wants, he doesn't want to get them home, he wants Destiny for himself.
But trusting Chloe with the bridge is a mistake. Hopefully she is on our side.
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Originally posted by Blistna View PostDo you really blame him? For how people have treated him? And he doesn't trust th others in the crew, and he can't let the LA know about the bridge. And right now he trying to stop the clock, which benefits everyone.
Again, i don't think its ego. He is getting Chloe to help. He doesn't trust the others, and I don't blame him for that.
But trusting Chloe with the bridge is a mistake. Hopefully she is on our side.Originally posted by aretood2Jelgate is right
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Originally posted by jelgate View PostYes I do. If he is doing this because no one trust him its only his own fault. Being disliked is no excuse for what he has done
Rush is not a ten year old on the playground, he's a grown man that's keeping life or death vital information from everyone for his own selfish ends. It's possible to understand what drives the guy and still not like what he's doing.
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I like to Rush-bash as much as everyone else but, playing devils advocate here, if the lucian alliance found out about the bridge, they could probably take over the ship relatively easily. Maybe it's better that there's only one person who knows... for security reasons...
(PS - I don't have this view point but seeing other arguments is a weird talent I have... Would prefer flight)
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I think that Rush knows what he is doing is wrong. But he knows Young, and he knows that if he would have shared this discovery Young would have locked Rush out. And Rush knows that is the worst possible scenario. Rush MUST be in that bridge, HE NEEDS to be the captain of the ship. He is the only one qualified to know what is going on out there. Young needs to realize that while he is fine at commanding his soldiers on ground forces. He knows absolutely nothing about Destiny and needs to keep his hands off and observe.
However, like i said. Rush knows that would never happen and that the ENTIRE crew would then suffer for it, so he is trying to do the right thing while satisfying his needs. He knows he needs help, that's why he brought in Chloe.
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Originally posted by seishuuu View PostI like to Rush-bash as much as everyone else but, playing devils advocate here, if the lucian alliance found out about the bridge, they could probably take over the ship relatively easily. Maybe it's better that there's only one person who knows... for security reasons...
(PS - I don't have this view point but seeing other arguments is a weird talent I have... Would prefer flight)Originally posted by aretood2Jelgate is right
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Originally posted by the fifth man View PostIn all the wrong ways if you ask me.
Originally posted by garhkal View PostFrom the Spoilers,Spoiler:yes it seems he is right, but that also only shows Young agreeing to it. Who is to know whether the rest of the crew are let into the 'secret'Spoiler:You haven't read enough spoilers. Several people have said several times, that once Destiny's mission is learned, everyone will put everything aside and work towards The Greater Good. It's also an episode title. Rush has been saying all along that everyone needs to consider the greater good, and it looks like everyone will finally realize he was right all along.
By the way, those who dislike Rush, won't really want to look at those spoilers. In fact, you may want to stop watching before episode 7, heh.
Originally posted by jelgate View PostI don't think the Lucian Alliance will be taking over the ship anytime soon. But for the sake of arguing as far as takeover go its not that much different if they took over the control interface room just that they get more control how to use the ship
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Originally posted by zainea13 View PostI think that Rush knows what he is doing is wrong. But he knows Young, and he knows that if he would have shared this discovery Young would have locked Rush out. And Rush knows that is the worst possible scenario. Rush MUST be in that bridge, HE NEEDS to be the captain of the ship. He is the only one qualified to know what is going on out there. Young needs to realize that while he is fine at commanding his soldiers on ground forces. He knows absolutely nothing about Destiny and needs to keep his hands off and observe.
However, like i said. Rush knows that would never happen and that the ENTIRE crew would then suffer for it, so he is trying to do the right thing while satisfying his needs. He knows he needs help, that's why he brought in Chloe.
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Originally posted by garhkal View PostWouldn't surprise me. Many film studios do the same so no one has the 'true' answer for something in an upcoming film, since they KNOW they can't keep a true lockdown on any spoilers getting out.
In Air pt2, we see rush, eli brody, volkar and young (i think scott was also there) looking at a visual showing the galaxies (PLURAL) the destiny has been through.. a lot more than 2.
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Originally posted by seishuuu View PostIt probably doesn't help that the majority of the ship's systems are still locked out and Rush is having to try and operate the ship with only half the buttons working, so to speak. It'll be interesting to see how everyone deals with his knowledge and use of the bridge when it eventually comes out...
Originally posted by Blistna View PostDo you really blame him? For how people have treated him? And he doesn't trust th others in the crew, and he can't let the LA know about the bridge. And right now he trying to stop the clock, which benefits everyone.
Again, i don't think its ego. He is getting Chloe to help. He doesn't trust the others, and I don't blame him for that.
But trusting Chloe with the bridge is a mistake. Hopefully she is on our side.sigpic
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