The Stargate

[Mr Evil 37]

Remember that it was a directed energy blast from a piece of alien technology that took out a small section of the gate; not your average rock slide. I doubt many natural hazards could damage a gate, aside from the huge disasters, obviously, despite them being weaker than MW gates.

[greenguywithlasereye]

for some reason i thought the drone rammed the gate [not just destroying it from firing]. will have to re-watch.

[tomaso88]

Well I was saying the same thing in another thread but now I have just realised that the tollan made there own gate and that was destroyed easy enough by the Goa'uld although we don't see it get destroyed we know the SGC couldn't dial it which means it probably was.

[Nth Chevron]

It could also have something to do with the gate being active at the time, maybe a small overload in a gate segment?

As we saw in 'Awakening' the MK1 gates seemed to be made of segments and not whole chunks of Naquadah.

N.C

[Kanten]

My point was that if they were that easy to take out would they have lasted for the thousands of years or however far ahead the seed ships are. If that little hit would take it out than any number of things should have destroyed most of these gates in the thousands of years they've been there.

Maybe that's the reason why the crew tends to find at most two operating gates within range of the ship at a given time? Wouldn't be misguided to presume that there were a lot more gates out there before.

Also the elements, in most cases, likely pale in comparison to a direct hit from an high-impact energy weapon.

[garhkal]

Wow these are some weak stargates it was shot once. We've seen the Milkyway and Pegasus gates withstand Volcanoes, suns, McKay, being shot, being blown up. etc.

And they take these gates out in one shot, I think the ancients might be buying some fake knock-offs. Seriously are these gates even made of the same material. Maybe sub-par material is why they don't work long distances.

Lets see. the one in 100 days was buried from a near direct hit. The one on the volcano planet melted. Several blew up... So they are not all that..

Seeing the gate broken is pretty metaphorical, isn't it? Since we just got the news that the Stargate franchise is, for now, dead

A subtle irony!

It could also have something to do with the gate being active at the time, maybe a small overload in a gate segment?

That is a good point. WE did see the one in Season 6 SG1 blow up cause of an active gate oveloading it. Same with the one in Lost tribe 2 parter.

[qingdom]

Speaking of the seeder ships, right.... has there ever been a mention that there are still ships seeding the Pegasus and/or Milky Way galaxies?

From my recollection of Baal's solar flare lab, the Milky Way is still ever growing with countless numbers of stars in the outer perimeter. No mention if they had gates or that there were satellites that lit up near them... just the center ones.

[JeffKnight]

I agree with what has been previously stated about the Universe gates. The Ancients obviously intended to follow up on Destiny but never did; and I assume that they built the seeder ships to take into account that they might not have a stream of high-quality materials to deal with, which would mean sacrificing quality in order to ensure that gates could be built and deployed out of what they found. Then there is the fact that the MW may have originally had Universe-type stargates before they got upgraded to version 1.0; just as Pegasus may have started with 1.0 gates when Atlantis arrived, but were later upgraded to the 2.0 model...

[Replicator Todd]

I've always seen this gates in SGU as some type of early prototype. But it was so cool seeing the piece of the gate destroyed!

Never seen that before!

[thekillman]

i was wondering if it had anything to do with naquahdah.

no not that.


naquahdah is the building block of all advanced technology. yet in a ship battle, a hyperdrive always fails first, despite the fact that it has been built to withstand megatons of energy pumped into it.


the same with any advanced piece of tech. energy weapons do miracles, but against something as stupid as a piece of armor or *agh* soil, they're just mild, useless impacts.

could it be that whatever energy present in the plasma bolt -not thermal since it would have to cause nuclear-level explosions- affects naquahdah only?


which isn't as strange as it sounds since Naquahdah by any modern standard can't exist, even if it had a double magic number. the size of the atom would -by quantum physics- simply rip itself apart into protons and neutrons.

so whatever exotic forces present in naquahdah, which also give it it's insane energy density -also not possible by any standard- might be affected by whatever exotic energies are present in the plasma bolt.


a whole slew of technical information later, this is essentially the end result:


Plasma bolt + advanced tech = miracles
plasma bolt + normal tech = useless.

[Egle01]

Seeing the gate broken is pretty metaphorical, isn't it? Since we just got the news that the Stargate franchise is, for now, dead

Only that unlike seeing the broken gate, news about the end of SG franchise wasn't cool at all.

[qingdom]

Not all gates are created with the same material. Back in SG-1, Orlin created a single person stargate using like microwave parts and copper coils in that one episode on Earth where he first meets Sam.

The Ori Supergate was constructed using a different design... like 244 pieces/pods to form a circle, using the same fundamental circular ring design.

Then, there were the Nox who can harness some magic power and just create an event horizon without dialing or the kawoosh... Figuring all they would need is a gate that has stored power and dialing capabilities and instantaneous wormhole without the kawoosh.


Either that or we have some biiiiiiiiig plotholes unanswered. ::still connecting the dots::

[Shylodog]

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naquahdah is the building block of all advanced technology. yet in a ship battle, a hyperdrive always fails first, despite the fact that it has been built to withstand megatons of energy pumped into it.

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This part bugged me a little bit. Naquadah is the building block for stargates and Goa'uld technology. Neutronium is the building block for Asgard. They never said that all Ancient tech is based on Naquadah, just the Ancient-built stargates.

[SaberBlade]

naquahdah is the building block of all advanced technology. yet in a ship battle, a hyperdrive always fails first, despite the fact that it has been built to withstand megatons of energy pumped into it..

Not to sound insensitive, but Nuclear Reactors are also designed to withstand and pump out huge amounts of energy and are designed to be as save as possible, but look at Japan after the recent Earthquakes. Stick something that has an equal, if not more power on a ship and start firing at it, no surprise it goes offline or is easily damaged.

Speaking of the seeder ships, right.... has there ever been a mention that there are still ships seeding the Pegasus and/or Milky Way galaxies?

Presumably, if the same Seeder ships seeded Milky Way and Pegasus, they'd be long gone from those galaxies after 50 million years. The Ancients more than likely replaced all First Generation gates with Second Generations when they decided to expand and properly settle in the Milky Way. When they went to Pegasus, created the Third Generation gates and reseeded them. They may have also replaced all First Generation gates in Ida or the Asgard could have done it themselves after meeting the Ancients.

[garhkal]

Plus who's to say someone else was not making more..