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Originally posted by Briangate78 View PostLack? There was no Chloe.Bless the Maker and all His Water. Bless the coming and going of Him, May His passing cleanse the world. May He keep the world for his people.
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Originally posted by Briangate78 View PostLack? There was no Chloe.Bless the Maker and all His Water. Bless the coming and going of Him, May His passing cleanse the world. May He keep the world for his people.
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I really liked this ep. Well, I didn't like that Riley had to die, but it was very emotionally and another thing for Young to live with. Rush finding the bridge was great and all his explanations why Destiny dropped out of FTL. But Young seems to suspect something.
Chloe was missing? Ah, yes, thinking of it, there was something missingsigpic
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Originally posted by Cold Fuzz View PostIf Gloria is his conscience in some way, then she was absolutely right in saying that his negligence was directly responsible for putting the shuttle crew in that situation in the first place. You're correct that if he decided to be truthful about the access code, things would have been different.
Rush is still rationalizing away his egregious tactics and the body count under the pretext of "the greater good." He wasn't saving lives, though he may sincerely believe he's trying to do that. His actions in Aftermath aren't about the welfare of the crew no matter how much he can rationalize or justify it as such. This is about him being in control and proving that he's right.
He claims that Young is mentally unstable and unfit for command. Well, Young isn't seeing Gloria or Jeremy Franklin in his mind right now. That and there's the oh-so-little bit of dishonesty about the master code. On top of that, he cost them a shuttle and the life of a well-liked and excellent crewman. His hypocrisy is infuriating. Rush is WRONG. Period. He is NOT fit for command.
Also, it wasn't entirely Rush's fault for what happened to Riley. Yes, he stopped the ship so that they could take a shuttle to the planet, but Young gave the orders to, and they needed supplies. It's all well and good to say it was a bad choice after the fact, but you didn't know early on (unless you kept in touch with spoilers). Faced with dwindling supplies and a planet that has vegetation, you'd make the same call. I'd be willing to bet that if Rush was truthful and open about finding the bridge and the planet, Young would have ordered a stop and shuttle trip.
And by the way, even if he's seeing things, it's clearly explained by his lack of sleep and his nightmares over being tortured (yeah, see how well YOU hold up after being tortured). Young, on the other hand, has no such excuses.
On another note, yeah, I didn't even notice Chloe was gone. And apparently, no one else really did, either. Says a lot about her character, really, that she's so forgettable. Given her lines in Justice, I'd almost say she would have been the better candidate to say what Riley did about prisoners of war. But then, I suppose they needed Riley to say them to emphasize his ultimate role. Perhaps Chloe can step up more and be the group's conscious, but I dread that, because she sounds so whiny when she does (Eli suffers a bit from this, too). Also, consciences generally only work in idealistic universe, and as we've established, SGU is a cynical one.
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Originally posted by Dusk View PostI'm sorry guys, I give this a thumbs down. And not because Riley is dead (why didn't they just sever his lower torso?)
Anyway to the episode itself, I think this must take the prize for most disturbing death on Stargate. Great acting both by Haig Sutherland and Louis Ferreira. And I’m glad that they have started killing off characters we like. It adds to the sense of danger, the fact that even on just a routine supply run you can die. As for the rest of the episode it seems to be coming along nicely, both Rush and Young are slowly losing it and there seems to be plenty of potential for conflict with Telford. The lead in to next week has me excited as well and hopefully it will continue this upward trend.
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Originally posted by Kaiphantom View PostAnd by the way, even if he's seeing things, it's clearly explained by his lack of sleep and his nightmares over being tortured (yeah, see how well YOU hold up after being tortured). Young, on the other hand, has no such excuses.sigpic
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Originally posted by VampyreWraith View Postwow, until I read it right now I really hadn't noticed that Chloe was barely in this episode.
Could someone explain to me how they lifted and powered the gate? They 'crashed' close enough to the gate to get there quickly, huh?
Everything seemed to wrap too conveniently around the character drama for me. There was no tense 'we're stuck here if Destiny jumps'. I'm really trying to find something to enjoy in SGU but I really prefer plot to the overabundance of character drama which is what SGU is going for. I'm just not invested in it, nor do I really care that Riley died to be honest. Sad moment, to be sure, and the best part of the episode (minus Young's decision to make the man suffer instead of using a bullet) for me.
I enjoyed the premier more.sigpicThanks to Oma-1 for the beautiful banner!
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Originally posted by leiasky View PostCould someone explain to me how they lifted and powered the gate? They 'crashed' close enough to the gate to get there quickly, huh?
Damn SGU, in the history of the franchise I've only ever been brought to tears, once, Meridan but SGU has managed it twice in 2 weeks, not saying it's a bad thing though.
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