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Originally posted by garhkal View PostCome again?If you wish to see more of my rants, diatribes, and general comments, check out my Twitter account SirRyanR!
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D Toccs is right. They came up with a lot of good tech. Only we messed with it and turned it into something that broke. The tech that we found on Atlantis (and some other tech dotted around the Pegasus galaxy) and then messed up could have been the most recent, built only 6 months before the ancients got up a left, therefor still had so many bugs that needed to be tested that they never got round to.
I bet there are loads of weapons and devices that we currently have that are being tested in real life and if we dropped them now and other people found it in 1000 years time and saw it as advanced and read the blurb of what it does they would think "fantastic, this will be amazing to use in our war" yet they do not know that it actually doesn't have a working guidance system yet and crashs after 5000 feet regardless of its course.
The ancients probably just needed more time to sort out the bugs. We think their drones are awesome, I bet the original drones probably misfired quite a bit or the chair interface we are used to often lost connection in their first few tries. Hell even the ZPMs may have had an earlier base model.
You can say what you like about their battle class ships and that we can fight them and win, or what have you. But realistically we are benefiting from taking the most advanced technologies from the two most advanced civilizations we have ever encountered. Literally learning from their mistakes so that we don't make them.
All in all, they did pretty damn well.
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What exactely did they fail at?
Arcturus - it worked, it just didnt work good until we blew it up
Wraith - more of an accident then a failure
Asurans - They worked perfectly until we interfered
Sure seems like we are the failures rather than the AncientsI'VE GONE WIKI-MAD!!!!
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Originally posted by KEK View PostThe Asurans didn't work perfectly at all, they were designed as a weapon to fight the Wraith, but didn't work out as what the Ancients wanted them to be so they tried to destroy them.I'VE GONE WIKI-MAD!!!!
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Originally posted by escyos View PostWhat exactely did they fail at?
Arcturus - it worked, it just didnt work good until we blew it up
Originally posted by escyos View PostWraith - more of an accident then a failure
Originally posted by escyos View PostAsurans - They worked perfectly until we interfered
Sure seems like we are the failures rather than the Ancients
I would also add in Attero device. YES it worked by stranding the wraith, but it also blew up stargates..
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Originally posted by KEK View PostPretty sure that wasn't he reason, it was because they started wiping out humans to defeat the Wraith. Either way, still a failed project.I'VE GONE WIKI-MAD!!!!
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Originally posted by garhkal View PostLets see.. Exotic particles blowing up portions of our universe?? Doubt that is a good sign
How? They were not attacking the Wraith.. AND they do so by taking out all the humans...
I would also add in Attero device. YES it worked by stranding the wraith, but it also blew up stargates..
As for Attero, it worked, it did what Janus wanted it to do. The Stargate thing was a side effect, plus as far as we knew he was the only one working on it. Would you call the human race a failure if one person failed at something?I'VE GONE WIKI-MAD!!!!
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Originally posted by escyos View PostThat was AFTER we gave them access to their programming
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Originally posted by KEK View PostNo, they had a command in their programming that compelled them to kill Wraith which was deactivated, presumably by the Ancients, and presumably because they started massacring humans, hence they didn't work asp planned. It's possible that isn't the case of course, but that seemed to be the implication.I'VE GONE WIKI-MAD!!!!
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Originally posted by escyos View PostYes but it still generated energy, there was just a side effect.
As for Attero, it worked, it did what Janus wanted it to do. The Stargate thing was a side effect, plus as far as we knew he was the only one working on it. Would you call the human race a failure if one person failed at something?
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Originally posted by KEK View PostNo, they had a command in their programming that compelled them to kill Wraith which was deactivated, presumably by the Ancients, and presumably because they started massacring humans, hence they didn't work asp planned. It's possible that isn't the case of course, but that seemed to be the implication.
Todd established the WRAITH turned off the original attack command.
Hence him bringing their old program to Atlantis to work with Rodney to reassert the counter command.
It is stated in the original Asuran episode by Laim via Weirs head that the ancients feared their new creation so therefore tried to destroy them.
They attacked humans ONLY after we fracked their code up.
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Originally posted by KEK View PostNo, they had a command in their programming that compelled them to kill Wraith which was deactivated, presumably by the Ancients, and presumably because they started massacring humans, hence they didn't work asp planned. It's possible that isn't the case of course, but that seemed to be the implication.
The Ancients considered the Asurans a failure because they wanted killer robots. The Ancient's original plan for the Asurans was probably similar to the IOA's plan to use replicators against the Ori in AoT.
However instead of killer robots, what the Ancients got was artificial life and intelligence that evolved much faster then they expected, began emulating them and wanted the aggression removed from their programming. So therefore as a weapon the Asurans were a failure.
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