'Life' (109) General Discussion

[ZoSo]

Really? As a short list of things that I personally know about the Destiny:

1) It can refuel itself by harnessing solar power from stars.
2) It is millions of years old, and was launched by the Ancients to gather data on planets seeded with gates.
3) It has some pretty badass weaponry, which we got to see firing briefly in "Earth"
4) There is very strong evidence that the ship is bordering on artificial intelligence, given that it has been shown to be very adept at preserving itself over the years autonomously.
5) It has a high-speed travel different from any sort of "hyperdrive" we've seen before.
6) Most recently, the chair has been discovered, the potential of which is yet unclear, though we know it's there.

I dunno...I personally feel like I've learned quite a bit about the Destiny in the episodes we've had so far, and this is in no means an exhaustive list.

I should have worded that differently. I was mainly talking about getting the code to get full access to the ship. If this was more like sg-1 then that would be their first priority and the whole episode would've been focused on that chair. And yes, I know this isn't sg-1 and I know its supposed to be different. That doesnt mean I can't express my disinterest.

[Cecil Brax]

So... no ones cares to know how come all ship crew suddenly had identical shirts and pants and went on a run like that? Good thing they had time to pack that in their... oh wait, no they didn't come with briefcases full of clothing! what the...

Yeah. I didn't like that silly storyline hole. Could have been easily avoided. com'on.

meh.

Actually,

We do know that they came through with a bunch of random containers of random stuff. Remember when they were first going through the containers they were finding some that were filled with blank paper, etc etc. One of them could have been filled with generic workout clothes to be stocked in the locker rooms.

Hospitals have rooms filled with identical pairs of scrubs in all sizes. Maybe one of the crates was a recently arrived shipment from earth of new clothes for the locker rooms.

- CB

[Pharaoh Atem]

scott being a father FTW

[Yoshi442]

(Experiencing an Error of Comprehension error.)

I didn't get the last part....

I'll try again. It's late and I should probably be in bed

Basically, I disagree that we always need to respect other's beliefs. Generally, yes--but some views are not worthy of respect, such as a racist belief. Picture two scenarios: A. someone swaps bodies and has sex with someone of the same race as the host. B. someone swaps bodies and has sex with someone of a different race from the host. I would have a problem with a viewer saying that scenario B is worse than scenario A because what if the host disagrees with race-mixing. Either A and B are both wrong, or A and B are both right. I would not respect that person's opinion.

Similarly I would not respect someone's opinion if they think that borrowing a body for gay sex is worse than borrowing it for straight sex. Again, equally wrong or OK.

[Coronach]

I should have worded that differently. I was mainly talking about getting the code to get full access to the ship. If this was more like sg-1 then that would be their first priority and the whole episode would've been focused on that chair. And yes, I know this isn't sg-1 and I know its supposed to be different. That doesnt mean I can't express my disinterest.

By all means, and thanks for the clarification.

[Yoshi442]

Perhaps, but that doesn't make it stellar material for an episode

I don't mind it as long as it's occasional. I remember a ST:TNG episode that was basically a day in the life of Data, and it was pretty cool.

[jelgate]

You originally said that Wray and her partner might not have had sex. Which I think they did, but even so I went on to say even if they didn't have sex together, I think it was a major violation to use someone else's body for a same sex relationship.

Unless in this case, the person was completely informed what their body may be getting used for and signed off on it, which so far I am not getting that impression. It may be happening, and people may be volunteering and know full well what they are getting into, but until the producers or the writers say something to clear this up or write a scene to clear this up, there's no way to know for sure.

- CB

I don't really see how its any different from a man going home to see his wife or vice versa. Surely the people who use the stones realize people are going to want to see their loved ones. I don't see a kiss a major violation of body rights

[Yoshi442]

I should have worded that differently. I was mainly talking about getting the code to get full access to the ship. If this was more like sg-1 then that would be their first priority and the whole episode would've been focused on that chair. And yes, I know this isn't sg-1 and I know its supposed to be different. That doesnt mean I can't express my disinterest.

To me, posting on a message board about a show doesn't express disinterest so much as interest.

[EvenstarSRV]

I see what you mean, but to me, it makes them in a sense even more stranded. Being trapped on the ship is bad enough, but most of them will be able to come to terms with that on some level given enough time. But being able to go back and continue relationships in some twisted half manner, without really being there? That's like ripping the scab off the wound on a regular basis. Hence, Wray in the shower crying after seeing her GF.

I can see that, but I guess I'd prefer those visits to earth being less frequent. I mean, Young has already gotten to go back so much, he's not even letting the scab reform. Just lessens the tension for me.

And I agree with what I think Coronach said up thread about clarifying the rules for the stones. I don't think it can just be assumed that Telford and others have given consent to let their bodies be used in any way, and this ep was a good chance for them to clarify that. The escorts and cover stories were a start, though.

[Cecil Brax]

I don't really see how its any different from a man going home to see his wife or vice versa. Surely the people who use the stones realize people are going to want to see their loved ones. I don't see a kiss a major violation of body rights

You're Right,

In that I think either way its a violation. I didn't think it was right Young using Telford's body for the same thing either. I can see how its furthering the plotlines and creating new character conflicts, such as this episode with Telford and Young, but that doesn't mean I think its right either way.

If you believe that it was 'merely a kiss' they shared in that scene, that's cool and of course you're entitled to your own opinions. I however didn't get that impression. Right now it looks like a lot of people are split how they feel about this, or how they interpreted some of those scenes. Which is great, cause I think its the purpose of the show is to make people question and discuss.

Despite that I don't think the body swapping and intimacy is right, it doesn't hurt my desire to watch the show. In fact, I want to find out what is going to eventually happen as a result of people using the bodies of others inappropriately.

- CB

[Deevil]

.
I recent looked up Babylon 5 and it was described as a character driven SCI FI show...which is what SGU was described and constantly defended as. B5 was never this slow.

Did you watch the first season of Babylon 5, because it was very slow... the entire season was set-up with very little to no pay-offs.

[Cecil Brax]

Did you watch the first season of Babylon 5, because it was very slow... the entire season was set-up with very little to no pay-offs.

Actually,

I have to completely agree here. The First Seasion was very slow. I often start rewatching my DVDs at the second season when Sheridan comes onboard. Babylon 5, while cheesy in some parts, was actually a very well put together show for the time frame it was done in.

Which is odd cause I'm watching it as I read these forums. hehe

- CB

[Mitchell82]

I wasn't sure if I'd like this one but I loved it. Great to see more exploration of the ship loved finally seeing Rush's true colors and still such a mystery. The chair is very interesting can't wait to see if Rush has the "balls" to sit in it. Young made the right decision there. Loved the Camiele and Sharon scenes, and no it's not just because it was a lesbian scene. It was very well written and tastefully done. Telford really makes me mad he was egging Young on in that scene loved how Young finally gave him what was coming to him. This ep really had it all. Exploration of the ship, loads of character development and plenty of drama. Great ep IMO.I also have a thought about Justice. What if

Spoiler:

it is Young that commited the murder but not Young. By that I mean what if it's Telford.

[jelgate]

You're Right,

In that I think either way its a violation. I didn't think it was right Young using Telford's body for the same thing either. I can see how its furthering the plotlines and creating new character conflicts, such as this episode with Telford and Young, but that doesn't mean I think its right either way.

Oh it was definatly immoral for Young. That much I can agree on.

If you believe that it was 'merely a kiss' they shared in that scene, that's cool and of course you're entitled to your own opinions. I however didn't get that impression. Right now it looks like a lot of people are split how they feel about this, or how they interpreted some of those scenes. Which is great, cause I think its the purpose of the show is to make people question and discuss.

Well my reasoning is what did we see besides a kiss? What else is their to imply that it led to sex. Thier is a fine line between the two and sometimes its just a kiss and nothing more.

Despite that I don't think the body swapping and intimacy is right, it doesn't hurt my desire to watch the show. In fact, I want to find out what is going to eventually happen as a result of people using the bodies of others inappropriately.

- CB

It depends to me. It all maters on how intmate are we talking here?

[EllieVee]

Did you watch the first season of Babylon 5, because it was very slow... the entire season was set-up with very little to no pay-offs.

True, but it had ramifications throughout the rest of the story.