Did Rush really do what Young thinks he did?

[jelgate]

it wouldn't be the 1st time Rush didn't deny a false accusation : back in Light Young suggested that Rush knew the ship would recharge (we know he didn't) and for some reason Rush didn't even defend himself

Do we really? Or are you just speculating

[SoulReaver]

Do we really? Or are you just speculating

I meant "we" as in "those of us who watched the ep" of course

[jelgate]

I meant "we" as in "those of us who watched the ep" of course

Then that is pure speculation. We don't know if Rush knew or not.

[SoulReaver]

Then that is pure speculation. We don't know if Rush knew or not.

I meant "those of us who watched the ep" as in "those of us who watched the entire ep" of course

[jelgate]

I meant "those of us who watched the ep" as in "those of us who watched the entire ep" of course

still pure speculation. That is until you can prove in the episode that Rush knew or didn't know

[SoulReaver]

still pure speculation. That is until you can prove in the episode that Rush knew or didn't know

ok did you watch the episode ?

Rush clearly looked surprised when the ship was recharging

[Blackhole]

it wouldn't be the 1st time Rush didn't deny a false accusation : back in Light Young suggested that Rush knew the ship would recharge (we know he didn't) and for some reason Rush didn't even defend himself

My impression was Rush was angry and insulted at being suspected and felt the accusation didn't deserve the dignity of a reply. I think in that instance Young was wrong and unfair to Rush. What would Rush have to gain by putting everyone on board through that entire trauma? Loosing 17 people, a shuttle, and most if not all of the supplies would have been insane. He would not have gained anything from the act and it would seriously have jeopardized his position. Rush is far too pragmatic to have done so.

[jelgate]

ok did you watch the episode ?

Rush clearly looked surprised when the ship was recharging

Yes.

Appearences can be deciving. I'm not saying he knew but I'm also not saying he didn't

[SoulReaver]

Yes.

Appearences can be deciving.

oh ?
then why the surprised look ?

[jelgate]

oh ?
then why the surprised look ?

Hypothetically speaking if Rush did know he would want to keep up a mask so others wouldn't discover

[SoulReaver]

Hypothetically speaking if Rush did know he would want to keep up a mask so others wouldn't discover

I meant the scenes expressly filmed to show [the viewer] he didn't know, starting with the one where he was reading a book (then stared up with that look as in "wait a minute, we're still alive"), then the one where he was in engineering room when his expression went from surprise to something resembling outright exultation

in both these scenes he was completely alone, so who would those "others" have been - the Holy Spirit ?

[spinny magee]

It is possible, though Rush might have planted the gun when everybody was under house-arrest in the gateroom, since he was the only one missing (Young radioed him in the Nexus)

I dont know, right now, everything looks convincingly against Rush, however im still wondering what exactly was on that recording. If it really was Rush allone, or if it was Rush investigating, and then someone came in to take the gun.

Before we know whats on the tape, i cant make my mind up.

Also, who else would have framed Rush? Camille? Shes an opportunist, so maybe. The military people surely not, they are Young-loyal. Maybe Volkert, though i dont really think so.

Well I know who else would frame rush..everybody on the ship, he's the most hated guy on ship (who held that role until spencer but now he's reclaimed it).

But what about Franklin? why did he look so guilty and nervous whilst talking to eli and why did he really go in that chair??

[AdamTM]

Well I know who else would frame rush..everybody on the ship, he's the most hated guy on ship (who held that role until spencer but now he's reclaimed it).

But what about Franklin? why did he look so guilty and nervous whilst talking to eli and why did he really go in that chair??

Oh ****, sorry, missed that Freudian slip, its supposed to read "who else would frame YOUNG" not Rush

[natyanayaki]

I think the simplest answer is that Young is right, and that the secret footage just shows Rush moving the gun. I hope the answer is far more complicated, and I actually hope it involves Franklin somehow considering his past involvements with Spencer, his hate for the military, and his eventual decision to sit on the chair. I just don't know how lazy or how creative the writers actually are; I don't trust them that much.

[Daro]

The idea of Franklin somehow being responsible seems....not that unlikely. After all, I wouldn't have thought he'd ever sit in that chair. I mean, everything on this thread (except the debate about whether or not Rush was surprised and then insulted in "Light") is pure speculation. For us conspiracy theorists who have been fooled before and are looking for any indication of shenanigans.

You know what? I wish we had a map of the ship, the part the crew is on, as it is thus far. Labeled, with whose quarters are where. From there, we could spin some theories on who could have possibly heard the shot. If Spencer was close to the hydroponics lab, Franklin very well could have been involved.

Everyone on that ship indeed has a reason to hate Rush. He is the one who stranded them, and it keeps getting worse for him because of his ongoing feud with Young. It's easy enough to think that someone would frame Rush, for framing Young, and watch the two destroy each other over it. The problem with that is that Rush confessed, but I still think he may have done so because he knew Young just wouldn't believe the truth. He acted like he had nothing to hide before being confronted. Of course, he is often described as "inscrutable" in the script, so who knows?