'Incursion, Part 1' (119) General Discussion

[dosed150]

the la guy who got fried it must have been some kind of solar radiation or something, he was stood under a hole in the hull that the camera zoomed in on

[Major_Griff]

Did I leave anything out?

Tortured by Kiva.

[Duneknight]

Young did a horrible mistake that cost people their lives. my fav character making such a mistake saddens me

[Duneknight]

the la guy who got fried it must have been some kind of solar radiation or something, he was stood under a hole in the hull that the camera zoomed in on

how does that explain the ship not entering FTL?

[Callie]

tone down the use of the loud, annoying music.

Oh, I could NOT disagree more! In fact:

Dear script writers, producers, directors and editors: Please stop putting exciting action, complete with explosions, gunfire and shouting, over the top of Joel Goldsmith’s awesome background music, cos it’s very distracting and I can’t hear the music properly. Kthxbai. Love and hugs, Callie.
P.S. Alternatively, bully the man out of his current stance and order him to release a soundtrack album! Ta muchly.

[Duneknight]

but this episode felt unfinished needed a good ending, and needed to explain why LA decided to attack destiny they way they did, seems kinda improvised.

[jelgate]

but this episode felt unfinished needed a good ending, and needed to explain why LA decided to attack destiny they way they did, seems kinda improvised.

Its kind of obvious why the Alliance attacked Icarus after this episode. They wanted the mysteries of Destiny for themself

[xxxevilgrinxxx]

Young did a horrible mistake that cost people their lives. my fav character making such a mistake saddens me

Yes, he made a mistake but wouldn't you rather see a very human character that is capable of making mistakes than an unlikely (and in the end unrelatable) superhero type character that never makes any mistakes?

but this episode felt unfinished needed a good ending, and needed to explain why LA decided to attack destiny they way they did, seems kinda improvised.

It felt unfinished cus it is unfinished

[Duneknight]

i meant LA didnt plan for the attack, no bomb no tactics, especially considering what Telford fed em. Young couldve been waiting guns loaded on the other side. yeah i get that Kiva didnt have the time and was waiting for response. but they did all this so in the end they just go with the flow

[Duneknight]

Yes, he made a mistake but wouldn't you rather see a very human character that is capable of making mistakes than an unlikely (and in the end unrelatable) superhero type character that never makes any mistakes?

i think the writers make the characters make mistakes to suit the storyline but make them geniuses when the want the story to resolve itself. thats one big mistake though. venting the atmosphere wasnt a good defensive strategy. he should put a few guards in front of the gate even if there were risks.

[BadOnion]

i think the writers make the characters make mistakes to suit the storyline but make them geniuses when the want the story to resolve itself.

People make mistakes.

[xxxevilgrinxxx]

i think the writers make the characters make mistakes to suit the storyline but make them geniuses when the want the story to resolve itself. thats one big mistake though. venting the atmosphere wasnt a good defensive strategy. he should put a few guards in front of the gate even if there were risks.

I don;t see any of the "genius" solutions here. Sure, in Rush and Eli, they do have a pair of genuises on board but even what they do isn't over the top and they've also made mistakes that are fitting. Venting the atmosphere was a good plan, probably the best they could have done. It was also quite a ruthless plan as it would kill everyone in the room. From a military POV, it's a great plan but from a human POV? From a leader that is fed up with sacrificing lives? Not so much. Also, as the plan was to vent the atmosphere in the first place, why would Young put his own people in the gate room? To kill them too when, if he did make good on his plan, he vented the room? There are risks in every plan.

[Duneknight]

I don;t see any of the "genius" solutions here. Sure, in Rush and Eli, they do have a pair of genuises on board but even what they do isn't over the top and they've also made mistakes that are fitting. Venting the atmosphere was a good plan, probably the best they could have done. It was also quite a ruthless plan as it would kill everyone in the room. From a military POV, it's a great plan but from a human POV? From a leader that is fed up with sacrificing lives? Not so much. Also, as the plan was to vent the atmosphere in the first place, why would Young put his own people in the gate room? To kill them too when, if he did make good on his plan, he vented the room? There are risks in every plan.

well then he wouldnt need to vent the gateroom if he had troops there. sorry but venting the atmosphere wouldve not worked anyway even if Rush wasnt there, it was a bad plan he shouldve anticipated their preparation. sealing doors? seriously?

[xxxevilgrinxxx]

well then he wouldnt need to vent the gateroom if he had troops there. sorry but venting the atmosphere wouldve not worked anyway even if Rush wasnt there, it was a bad plan he shouldve anticipated their preparation. sealing doors? seriously?

Young has limited personnel and limited ammo. He also has no idea what the LA, who don't have limited personnel or ammo, will be bringing with them. You're also assuming that he had this great amount of time to prepare, when it doesn't look like they did. Bottling the LA up in the gate room and a)taking care of them right then and there (and not risking anyone else) or b) taking the LA out in the winding, dark, unknown to the LA corridors, picking them off until the numbers are manageable is a perfectly sound military plan when you're dealing with an invasion force larger and better armed than you are.

[Duneknight]

Young has limited personnel and limited ammo. He also has no idea what the LA, who don't have limited personnel or ammo, will be bringing with them. You're also assuming that he had this great amount of time to prepare, when it doesn't look like they did. Bottling the LA up in the gate room and a)taking care of them right then and there (and not risking anyone else) or b) taking the LA out in the winding, dark, unknown to the LA corridors, picking them off until the numbers are manageable is a perfectly sound military plan when you're dealing with an invasion force larger and better armed than you are.

umm, didnt the episode prove that the plan you talking about was so wrong? i think Young just wanted to see people suffocating again.