No MALP

[Jper]

Suppose they did sent a MALP to Destiny? Then what? What would they have done? They couldn't disconnect from the lock they had on Destiny's gate and they only had about six minutes before the planet exploded with them on it, which would certainly result in them dying? You'd never be able to evacuate all those people (78) with luggage in the time left after sending a MALP. So why are you/we discussing this?

[escyos]

Suppose they did sent a MALP to Destiny? Then what? What would they have done? They couldn't disconnect from the lock they had on Destiny's gate and they only had about six minutes before the planet exploded with them on it, which would certainly result in them dying? You'd never be able to evacuate all those people (78) with luggage in the time left after sending a MALP. So why are you/we discussing this?

still they had no clue the planet was going to explode, they were just evacuating because they couldnt fight the L.A off. and they would have kept trying to disconnect the gate until they had to evacuate. we are discussing this because it seemed foolhardy to just jump through blind

[Jper]

still they had no clue the planet was going to explode,

Yes they had. They knew the core was unstable and the planet was going to explode.

they were just evacuating because they couldnt fight the L.A off.

We'll never know if they could or couldn't do that.

and they would have kept trying to disconnect the gate until they had to evacuate.

They couldn't disconnect the gate.

we are discussing this because it seemed foolhardy to just jump through blind

That's okay, but first you need to get the facts right. Then it doesn't seem so foolhardy anymore.

[jelgate]

they beamed in, if they couldnt beam then they wouldnt have been able to get down that way. if the core prevented beaming then eli, the senator, chloe and rush WOULDNT have been able to beam down, but they did., the bunker would refer to the base that is underground which is pretty much all of it. they have ways of preventing beam tech locking on to targets, so if the hammond tried to beam them in they could have beamed them over a cliff. based on what we saw and heard that is what happened.

But they beamed in outside of the bunker meaning maybe something underground shields them from the Hammond's sensors.

[escyos]

But they beamed in outside of the bunker meaning maybe something underground shields them from the Hammond's sensors.

that was what i said

[escyos]

Yes they had. They knew the core was unstable and the planet was going to explode.

We'll never know if they could or couldn't do that.

They couldn't disconnect the gate.

That's okay, but first you need to get the facts right. Then it doesn't seem so foolhardy anymore.

TELFORD: "Icarus base, Telford. We can't hold 'em back."

and are you telling me that after dialling, when young cam in and went mad at rush, riley or one of the other techs wouldnt continue to try to disconnect or did they just sit their and twidle their thumbs?

[jelgate]

TELFORD: "Icarus base, Telford. We can't hold 'em back."

and are you telling me that after dialling, when young cam in and went mad at rush, riley or one of the other techs wouldnt continue to try to disconnect or did they just sit their and twidle their thumbs?

Why not? Their have been tons of times in SG1 when despite Carter's vast inteligence she has been unable to disconnect. And the techs are significantly less knowlledgable in this area

[Jper]

Why not? Their have been tons of times in SG1 when despite Carter's vast inteligence she has been unable to disconnect. And the techs are significantly less knowlledgable in this area

Yep, that's true.

[Ukko]

Why not? Their have been tons of times in SG1 when despite Carter's vast inteligence she has been unable to disconnect. And the techs are significantly less knowlledgable in this area

Plus they only had six minutes to do it all in.

[escyos]

anyway, they WOULD have had a MALP CLOSE-BY to use when/if they connected and why they never bothered DESPITE the fact that there may or may not have been enough time to send it through.

even though there was enough time for young and greer to go to where the senator was trapped, talk to scott and send him back, surely in that minute or two they could have at least tried.

seems like they would have had a system to deploy the MALP quickly and send it through. i am SPECULATING based on the fact that a military base would take precautions so.....i dont know, THEY DONT ALL DIE IN A PAINFUL WAY!

[escyos]

Plus they only had six minutes to do it all in.

yes but they werent all travelling through in that six minutes, it was on for a bit beforehand

[Ukko]

yes but they werent all travelling through in that six minutes, it was on for a bit beforehand

Nope. Carter said the gate was open for 6 minutes before the planet exploded.

They all werent traveling through because they all werent in or near the gate room, at the time of the attack.. People were cut off, people needed medical attention and others had to get to their posts, all before it was decided to use the gate for evac.

[escyos]

Nope. Carter said the gate was open for 6 minutes before the planet exploded.

They all werent traveling through because they all werent in or near the gate room, at the time of the attack.. People were cut off, people needed medical attention and others had to get to their posts, all before it was decided to use the gate for evac.

huh? thats what i said, the gate turned on, young yelled at rush, left, told scott, scott went to the gate and then went through, which was at least 1 minute.

[Ukko]

huh? thats what i said, the gate turned on, young yelled at rush, left, told scott, scott went to the gate and then went through, which was at least 1 minute.

I interpreted your post wrong.

yes but they werent all travelling through in that six minutes, it was on for a bit beforehand

Sounded to me like you meant it was on a bit longer.

[Jper]

anyway, they WOULD have had a MALP CLOSE-BY to use when/if they connected and why they never bothered DESPITE the fact that there may or may not have been enough time to send it through.

even though there was enough time for young and greer to go to where the senator was trapped, talk to scott and send him back, surely in that minute or two they could have at least tried.

seems like they would have had a system to deploy the MALP quickly and send it through. i am SPECULATING based on the fact that a military base would take precautions so.....i dont know, THEY DONT ALL DIE IN A PAINFUL WAY!

You're forgetting that almost no-one knew that they were going to the Destiny, believing they would go back to Earth. It would look kinda suspicious if they'd sent a MALP to Earth... So Rush pushes Riley out of the way and dials the Destiny, then Eli, Rush and Riley know about it. Young comes in, and then Young knows about it. What's he gonna do? If they stay on the planet they face a certain death. So, his only choice is to evacuate through the gate with as much people and material/supplies as they can. Blaming Rush, getting a MALP, etc. will not help their situation, but will only lead to losing precious time and making other people suspicious which will result in losing more time.

Also, it's the Destiny we are talking about. The ninth-chevron-code address won't lead to just a gate in space. At least that's what Rush believes, and then at that moment, Young doesn't have any other choice that to trust and believe Rush. Why do you think there's such conflict between them from the get-go? From the moment on that Rush dialed the ninth chevron address the only thing they, Young included, could do, is to evacuate through the Stargate wherever it might lead them and take as much with them in the time alloted. And possibly hoping that they could dial Earth from their Destination (Destiny). Anything else is just losing time and counter-productive.

Okay, now let's assume the MALP is close by. Then let's assume they get it through the gate within those 6 minutes. Then let's assume that they can actually get back, receive the readings and interpret them. Assuming that the MALP survived the trip to Destiny and wasn't just thrown out of the gate into pieces like the evacuees. Then let's assume that the 6 minutes still haven't passed and the planet hasn't exploded yet, and that they aren't all dead yet.

So then you'd have the readings of the gate-room of the Destiny. What would they do? They can't just shut the gate down and dial somewhere else. Plus, the Destiny's gate-room is intact and atmosphere is breathable. So, why wouldn't they go?

And that's after all those assumptions. They'd have lost a whole lot of time. I mean, they are going to die, staying on Icarus. So, if the other side of that gate is also death, doesn't make much difference. They can't stay, and they can't go back to the Hammond, and they only have limited time before the planet explodes.