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    #61
    100% unnecessary. They kept it going way too long. He kept humping despite being called. And, really, why did we have to have them introduced in a sex scene? A make-out scene would've established the same thing, except being less gratuitous. The scene felt entirely out of place in tone and content with the rest of the episode.



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      #62
      It didn't bother me in the slightest, nor my family. My kids didn't bat an eyelid. Why? Because humans have sex - that's how we procreate, just like any animal on earth. I would much rather them see a totally non-graphic fully clothed comedic sex scene between two willing partners than ultraviolence, any day of the week.
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        #63
        Originally posted by Azriel View Post
        It does amuse me somewhat that people seem to be quite comfortable with seeing an alien burst from Teyla's stomach, or seeing Michael hold up the head of a Wraith Queen that he just decapitated. But a sex scene is an automatic no? We saw no nudity, yes they didn't have pants on (I keep forgetting that pants over here doesn't mean the same thing i.e. we call pants, trousers) but so what? I refer back to my first point, no nudity. The scene didn't go on for any longer then it needed to. I actually found myself laughing when Colonel Young tells Scott to "put down whatever he is holding".

        Maybe I'm not so easily offended, the whole issue of this being inappropriate, I believe that was the point of the scene. Military personnel are human, just like the rest of us, so why portray them any differently? I just think people should really just live with it, if you enjoy the other aspects of the series, just accept it as a minor annoyance - it's not like most series don't have them, it's hardly a reason to stop watching and I really cannot understand why so many are getting deeply offended by relatively minor scene.
        The reason I was offended by it was because it was forced on me, without warning - not giving me the chance to decide whether or not I wanted to see it. In THAT I felt manipulated. That offended my sense of decency. I've been married these past 20 years and have a very good relationship with my husband (most tactful way I can put it ) - I'm not a prude, but I feel that the viewing audience should be allowed to decide whether they want to watch something like this, or not.

        People say, 'but it's human and natural' - and that's true. So is pooping, but I don't want to see people doing that on my tv, either! Personally, I don't want to watch people having sex, for pretend or otherwise. It's one reason I don't go around peeping in my neighbor's windows, watching them have sex! See - we all know that's a creepy thing to do, and yet we sit there in our living rooms like closet voyeurs, watching strangers having 'sex' in tv shows. Well, I think that's kinda creepy, too! I think it degrades sex and makes it cheap and meaningless.

        They used sex - and that scene - as a tool. To shock. To titillate. To scream at the world 'this is not your mother's Stargate!' Fine. But I don't like to be manipulated like that...I don't like to feel 'used' - and that scene made me feel exactly that way.

        Why? Because it meant nothing. It didn't make a point, or advance the characters in any way. Is Scott a 'player'? Do these people love each other? Is the girl just a cheap ho who will do anybody in the supply closet? Does Scott disrespect his duty? Really - it told us nothing. A more subtle scene with more innuendo and less skin could have told us so much about the two - instead they went for the titillation and totally failed to make any point to what was being shown.

        So, it's not about 'sex' - but about taking away a viewer's ability to choose (there was no warning, no lead-in). I personally choose not to watch shows that have explicit sex scenes in them - they make me uncomfortable (see voyeurism comment above), and they often make sex cheap and meaningless. I prefer shows that appeal to my intellect, and not my hormones. But maybe I'm in the minority on this one. If I am, I'm proud to be in that minority, knowing that have my own free will, and I don't have to accept whatever they feel like showing me.


        So, excuse me...Masterpiece Mystery! is on tonight, and I have a hot date with Inspector Lewis and DS Hathaway! Now there's a bit of good tv!


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        Last edited by dasNdanger; 04 October 2009, 01:41 PM.
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          #64
          I think some of you are going to be disappointed, because from what I've read, there's going to be a little sex and partial nudity in this show. Also, one of the main characters is a lesbian. Have you somehow missed this information? If the four seconds in episode one bothered you, what's a little implied girl on girl going to do to your sensibilities?

          It doesn't bother me, but I will concede this point. Episode one's scene, was just tossed in there with pretty poor editing. I get the point, they are having an affair, then later on the ship, he acts like he doesn't know her name. Ok, I can see how they will build on that whole theme. Once they get air to breathe, food and water, their all going to eventually want a little fun, too! But Friday night's scene, looked like it was just thrown in as an after thought.

          In the context of the show, if it's handled tastefully, I'm all for it, as it will more than likely fit in with the overall tone of the show. I'm an adult, I watched it with my teenage daughter, neither one of us thought much about it till I read this thread.

          I probably should have just passed this whole thread by. I know from life experience that no one here is going to change anybody elses mind. I find it silly, someone else finds it shocking. Both views are valid. What it means though is that I'll be able to go on enjoying the show, others are going to have to stop watching cause I don't think they are going to change the scripts....

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            #65
            Originally posted by major davis View Post
            Well, that was the first romance scene we've seen in a while in stargate. Personally, I think it was next to unnessecary and overly graphic and the grunting was, well over the top. They didn't actually have to be doing it, it would be the same effect if they were kissing, and then we wouldn't have to put up with the moaning and grunting. So what did you guys think of it.
            I agree completely. As sex scenes go, (there was no romance in it) it was a bit sad IMHO. I think it was an effort to prove that the show was 'adult' and 'gritty'. Not. It was so obvious that came off as a bit junior high-ish.

            And to those of you that imply that those who don't like it are somehow afraid of or freaked prudishly out about sex scenes in general you've got it all wrong. It's not the sex scenes that we don't like, it's the bad ones, the obvious ones, the ones that make you roll your eyes when you see it. Like this one did.
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              #66
              Originally posted by dasNdanger View Post
              The reason I was offended by it was because it was forced on me, without warning - not giving me the chance to decide whether or not I wanted to see it. In THAT I felt manipulated. That offended my sense of decency. I've been married these past 20 years and have a very good relationship with my husband (most tactful way I can put it ) - I'm not a prude, but I feel that the viewing audience should be allowed to decide whether they want to watch something like this, or not.

              People say, 'but it's human and natural' - and that's true. So is pooping, but I don't want to see people doing that on my tv, either! Personally, I don't want to watch people having sex, for pretend or otherwise. It's one reason I don't go around peeping in my neighbor's windows, watching them have sex! See - we all know that's a creepy thing to do, and yet we sit there in our living rooms like closet voyeurs, watching strangers having 'sex' in tv shows. Well, I think that's kinda creepy, too! I think it degrades sex and makes it cheap and meaningless.
              They used sex - and that scene - as a tool. To shock. To titillate. To scream at the world 'this is not your mother's Stargate!' Fine. But I don't like to be manipulated like that...I don't like to feel 'used' - and that scene made me feel exactly that way.

              Why? Because it meant nothing. It didn't make a point, or advance the characters in any way. Is Scott a 'player'? Do these people love each other? Is the girl just a cheap ho who will do anybody in the supply closet? Does Scott disrespect his duty? Really - it told us nothing. A more subtle scene with more innuendo and less skin could have told us so much about the two - instead they went for the titillation and totally failed to make any point to what was being shown.

              So, it's not about 'sex' - but about taking away a viewer's ability to choose (there was no warning, no lead-in). I personally choose not to watch shows that have explicit sex scenes in them - they make me uncomfortable (see voyeurism comment above), and they often make sex cheap and meaningless. I prefer shows that appeal to my intellect, and not my hormones. But maybe I'm in the minority on this one. If I am, I'm proud to be in that minority, knowing that have my own free will, and I don't have to accept whatever they feel like showing me.


              So, excuse me...Masterpiece Mystery! is on tonight, and I have a hot date with Inspector Lewis and DS Hathaway! Now there's a bit of good tv!


              das
              best post on this topic...wish I had said it all. Green for you

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                #67
                I thought it was not overly long or overly graphic, and wasn't pointless either. It told me a bit about the characters and added weight to their later scenes together. I didn't find it shocking or titillating (the former largely because I was expecting it). It leaves me wondering what those characters actually have between them, how much they care about either other beyond what they might see as sneaking a bit of fun.
                If it had gone on any longer or showed more, I would definitely be uncomfortable about it. And I agree that having this sort of thing happen regularly would be too much. It would get tiresome.
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                  #68
                  My parents are more than likely going to be in the same room as me for this Fridays premier in Australia. Can some PLEASE tell me the exact time or the lead up scene (without spoiling it) this happens so I can accidently 'change' the channel for 'x' seconds/minutes/hours? XD as it will be too awkward to actually watch that bit with them around (as much as I'd like too see it), Thankyou!

                  P.S. Sorry if I sound stupid but im serious

                  P.P.S And sorry if I posted in the wrong place.

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                    #69
                    Its not that bad. just stick it out . I've been in the same room with my grandparents and a worse scene has come on. trust me. they wont say anything if you dont.

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                      #70
                      Ok the scene just before it is when Col Young is have seizures so in the next scene when the Hammond drops out of hyperspace do what ever you need to do lol.

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                        #71
                        Yeah. It's no biggie. Well, maybe it is...we didn't really see Scott that well...

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                          #72
                          the sex scene isn't really bad, compared to others. everyone is clothed, and you don't see anyones anything. the scenes only goes for about 30 secs, so i wouldn't worry if i were u
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                            #73
                            Here's a picture of the scene thanks for sblade.

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                              #74
                              TV14
                              Don't know except CotG what other eps of SG1/SGA get TV14?

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                                #75
                                I was sitting having sunday tea and my grandparents house, when my grandma put a film on that my grandad had bought to watch at his dialysis. Turns out it was porn She started screaming and trying to turn it off, my grandad had a huge smile on his face and me and my aunty were laughing so hard we were nearly crying.

                                So you could get some LOLs out of it



                                Nah seriously though, it's not that bad. Don't listen to the prudes!

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