Colonel Everett Young/Tamara Johansen Friendship Discussion and Appreciation Thread

[RowenaR]

If properly developed I would much rather see TJ/Young than the whole wife story.

Me too. After seeing this scene I really got the feeling that this marriage was dead long before Young decided to stay at Icarus a little while longer...

I must however say that it was pretty interesting to see how it was portrayed that while there is something going on between Young and TJ, Young still loves his wife. That was very human and realistic imo.

I thought so, too which made me sympathetic of him, not of her

Well maybe it'll be different now that BW and RCC are in charge of SGU, they may not make the same mistakes as a certain couple made on SGA....But I ain't getting my hopes up just to be dashed again

Me neither. Five years of SGA made that impossible

Why didn't we see a shirtless Lorne I would have been so for this

*iz half-dead from the thought alone

Well I thought so too, but my hopes got dashed anyway. Hopefully they'll restore my hope, me believing in them next week when "Water" airs. BW and RCC should really know what they are doing, I thought. Maybe they do, and are just trying to confuses us, have us talking and discussing.

Ah, hope... such a beautiful thing

[Linda06]

Me neither. Five years of SGA made that impossible

I know I was a pessimist before but 5 years of SGA turned me into a devout pessimist

*iz half-dead from the thought alone

I would have got behind this

Ah, hope... such a beautiful thing

Hope? What's that then?

[Cold Fuzz]

The Sheridan/Ivanova example you brought up is a prime example of this. They had great chemisrtry and good dynamic.

I was hoping for something like this between Young and TJ but after little glimpses of what I've seen (and I've tried to avoid spoilers for SGU like the plague) it's too bad they're not going to do this.

[Cory Holmes]

Better TJ/Young than Scott/TJ. That's too pathetically predictable to be of any enjoyment.

[Jper]

Yeah, but I don't think there was ever any talk about TJ/Scott, so that's not very likely.

[Cory Holmes]

Yeah, but I don't think there was ever any talk about TJ/Scott, so that's not very likely.

I suppose that's the advantage of a larger cast: there is no definitive "leading man" or "leading lady".

[Linda06]

I was hoping for something like this between Young and TJ but after little glimpses of what I've seen (and I've tried to avoid spoilers for SGU like the plague) it's too bad they're not going to do this.

This would have been very good for the show IMO. Pity the guys on stargate don't seem to realise that men and women can be good friends, best of friends even without having sexual tension between them Maybe if they grow up they'd realise this

Better TJ/Young than Scott/TJ. That's too pathetically predictable to be of any enjoyment.

This is true actually. That would be the worse kind of ship From what I've seen they look like they could be good friends but nothing more than that. I don't think she's that much older than him is she? But she does seem to be a lot more mature than he is.

I suppose that's the advantage of a larger cast: there is no definitive "leading man" or "leading lady".

There was no leading lady in SGA and look how well that turned out

[curiositykitty]

howdy all! first off im new to the forum so pardon me for any mistakes i may unwittingly make here. but yeah, i would say that that video clip of the interview with louis pretty much closes the door on this particular question. and i have to say im so excited to see where this all goes. i had a sneaking hunch from air I and II that something was up there with young and tj and im glad to see i was right. theres just an intimacy two people share when theyve "gone there" be it either physically or emotionally that overflows into all of their interactions and i have to say that both actors did a fabulous job of showing that in all of its subtlety.

an interesting question id love to ask louis as an actor is whether young, during the scene in light when hes playing with his wedding ring, was thinking of his wife or thinking of losing tj who was presumably on her way to relative safety. or perhaps just thinking of the general muddle presumably made of both situations.

also another question i thought id float here that i got from reading another thread elsewhere is in the upcoming episode

Spoiler:

where we have seen pics and video of tj and young kissing, whether or not that is actually young or telford or someone else in young's body? id like it to actually be young, but im way too paranoid of sneaky writers to believe it until i see it.

any thoughts on this one guys??

i hope the show keeps up the great writing and acting and storytelling. this is my new favorite show and im obsessed. friday cant get here fast enough!

[senatorincitatus]

howdy all! first off im new to the forum so pardon me for any mistakes i may unwittingly make here. but yeah, i would say that that video clip of the interview with louis pretty much closes the door on this particular question. and i have to say im so excited to see where this all goes. i had a sneaking hunch from air I and II that something was up there with young and tj and im glad to see i was right. theres just an intimacy two people share when theyve "gone there" be it either physically or emotionally that overflows into all of their interactions and i have to say that both actors did a fabulous job of showing that in all of its subtlety.

Welcome!

I completely agree with you about the actors. I think they did and continue to do a beautiful job.

Incidentally, did you notice this thread?
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=70459
There's some more speculation wandering around there, as well as, in Linda's case, a ton of denial.

also another question i thought id float here that i got from reading another thread elsewhere is in the upcoming episode

Spoiler:

where we have seen pics and video of tj and young kissing, whether or not that is actually young or telford or someone else in young's body? id like it to actually be young, but im way too paranoid of sneaky writers to believe it until i see it.

any thoughts on this one guys??

Given the way they film the stone-swapping scenes, I think it's either really Young or someone pretending to be him (or TJ; could go either way). They've always filmed the stone scenes with the actors portraying their own characters. Lou Diamond Phillips is still seen even when Telford's in Young's body, and the same with Louis Ferreira as Young in Telford's body. The only exception that we've seen so far is in reflections and brief other-peoples'-point-of-view shots, which are probably there to reinforce the fact that the other characters aren't seeing what we are. It's possible that the kiss is from somebody else's point of view, but I'm inclined to think not because that person would be about six inches away from the back of Young's head at the time. Which would be weird.

[Linda06]

Incidentally, did you notice this thread?
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=70459
There's some more speculation wandering around there, as well as, in Linda's case, a ton of denial.

Denial is my friend *huggles denial*

[Linda06]

Watched Water last night

Spoiler:

I am growing to appreciate TJ very much after this ep. I think she'd make a better Second to Young than Scott. She's no nonsense, won't take no crap from anybody

Didn't see much TJ/Young scenes but I liked that small part when he told her she'll do fine, in case he didn't make it back.

I hope they start to develop this possible friendship more over the coming weeks

[Cory Holmes]

Spoiler:

I especially enjoyed the little pause/hitch she gave when Young to her that.

[Linda06]

Spoiler:

I especially enjoyed the little pause/hitch she gave when Young to her that.

hmmmm *rubs chin* I think I understand what you just said Yeah that was nice.

This could become a positive friendship on the show

[Jper]

i would say that that video clip of the interview with louis pretty much closes the door on this particular question.

Unless LF was just messing with us. Wouldn't be the first time. I don't want to go all in denial as Linda, but there's still always the other possibility. And even if it is all true, it is uncertain that it will be really confirmed on screen. Linda may be wearing very thick glasses, this is still speculation and future spoilers, which may or may not be proven partly/completely correct/incorrect.

an interesting question id love to ask louis as an actor is whether young, during the scene in light when hes playing with his wedding ring, was thinking of his wife or thinking of losing tj who was presumably on her way to relative safety. or perhaps just thinking of the general muddle presumably made of both situations.

You've just gotta love the duality of all these moments. There's always that other possibility. Or other meaning.

[Linda06]

Unless LF was just messing with us. Wouldn't be the first time. I don't want to go all in denial as Linda, but there's still always the other possibility. And even if it is all true, it is uncertain that it will be really confirmed on screen. Linda may be wearing very thick glasses, this is still speculation and future spoilers, which may or may not be proven partly/completely correct/incorrect.



You've just gotta love the duality of all these moments. There's always that other possibility. Or other meaning.

*takes off very thick glasses and cleans them*