Command Structure of Destiny?

[jelgate]

Yup although he was unusually suspicious of Rush from day 1 even tho Rush hadn't done anything questionable (yet).
Maybe that sort of unjustified suspicion's what made the whole thing spiral down.

Rush hadn't done anything questionable? The stranding of everyone on Destiny is reason enough to question Rush

[Ser Scot A Ellison]

I like what it evolved into with sort of a senior counsel with Young, Wray, and Rush consulting on most decisions. Young always got in trouble when he went dictitorial.

[Aesop]

As we know, Stargate Command primarily had a USAF General commanding the base, and delegating responsibilities between departments and teams. Atlantis primarily had civilian leadership.

Do you think the setup of Col. Young as de facto leader was the best call?

Well aside from the fact that it was all they had to work with, I still think having a Colonel in charge makes more sense, especially for the size of the operation. A General tends to oversee a much larger force than what was stationed at Icarus.

Personally, I think it would have made more sense if the SGC and Atlantis were also commanded by Colonels and perhaps reported to Generals at the Pentagon, the SecDef or the President himself.

Yup although he was unusually suspicious of Rush from day 1 even tho Rush hadn't done anything questionable (yet).
Maybe that sort of unjustified suspicion's what made the whole thing spiral down.

Sure. Besides, you know, disregarding an order to evacuate to Earth and dialing Destiny instead.

[Blackfalcon]

Rush hadn't done anything questionable? The stranding of everyone on Destiny is reason enough to question Rush

I dunno the base was crumbling so what else could he have done ?

[Energizer_Vs_ZPM]

Yup although he was unusually suspicious of Rush from day 1 even tho Rush hadn't done anything questionable (yet).
Maybe that sort of unjustified suspicion's what made the whole thing spiral down.

To be honest, I always liked Rush. He seemed to be a misunderstood sort of chap who was dedicated and smart enough to see the consequences of actions before they happened. Unfortunately Young with his bull in a china shop attitude isn't such a smart guy. Sure Young has a lot of determination, brute force and a desire to do the right thing but he lacks the ability to think things through clearly.

Rush hadn't done anything questionable? The stranding of everyone on Destiny is reason enough to question Rush

Er go back and watch the first episode. He dialled destiny yes but he did not force anyone through the gate. He told Young of the risk to earth and Young agreed to evacuate to the other side of the 9th chevron address knowing full well that they had no idea what was waiting for them.

Again, people are far too hasty to pin stuff on Rush.

Sure. Besides, you know, disregarding an order to evacuate to Earth and dialing Destiny instead.

But Rush didn't force people to go to Destiny - Young made the final decision instead of disconnecting the gate and re-dialling earth.

[jelgate]

He dialed a gate he knew nothing about. Rush had no idea what was on other side gambling everyone's lives. The danger to Earth is a valid one. But if the threat of the energy traveling through the wormhole existed, Rush should have dialed an known uninhabitied planet instead of stranding people on the other side of the universe. The only reason Young agreed was because they could not shut down the gate.

[Blackfalcon]

Fair nuff but maybe Rush didnt know at that moment the addresses of the other gates and he had to think quickly.

[Blackfalcon]

Besides he was hired by the USAF precisely to find out everything about the 9th chevron right ?
So in a way he was just doing the job he was paid for In a way what he did what VERY profesional

[jelgate]

Besides he was hired by the USAF precisely to find out everything about the 9th chevron right ?
So in a way he was just doing the job he was paid for In a way what he did what VERY profesional

No respected business would want you to risk human lives to solve a puzzle

[Energizer_Vs_ZPM]

Besides he was hired by the USAF precisely to find out everything about the 9th chevron right ?
So in a way he was just doing the job he was paid for In a way what he did what VERY profesional

This is actually correct. On youtube I saw a clip that they cut out where Rush (once on destiny) uses the stones and reports to General O'Neill to tell him that he's successfully made the 9th chevron connection and that everyone is safe and well on destiny. O'Neill looses it with him ranting and raving about how no-one was prepared or qualified to be on that mission (er yes they were they were on Icarus for that reason) and that Rush must get them home. You can clearly see how pleased Rush is with himself and how O'Neill ranting at him makes him sad. He genuinely thinks he's done the right thing and then gets had a go at for it.

I like Rush. He's smart, intelligent and despite everyones poor opinion of him, he nearly always has everyones interests at heart - in an obscure way that not many understand.

[jelgate]

Rush has his own interests at heart. He just needs the others to help one Destiny. If he had everyone else's interest he wouldn't have hidden the bridge for example

[Blackfalcon]

Rush has his own interests at heart. He just needs the others to help one Destiny. If he had everyone else's interest he wouldn't have hidden the bridge for example

OK now a Real Life example: if the NSA & the DIA have the american people's interest as heart, why hide military intel from their citizens ?

[jelgate]

Thats completely irrelvent

[Energizer_Vs_ZPM]

Thats completely irrelvent

Not really. You can look at their staff as the big bad doom bringers but the reality is they're doing as they're told and probably doing a very good job of it - whatever it is that they're told to do.

Look at Rush the same way - he was tasked with solving the 9th chevron and getting a team to the other side. He did that, got in a pickle but is doing the best he can to make it worthwhile and at the same time trying to keep destiny running and the crew alive.

[jelgate]

Yes it is. Thier was no sudden attack in the real world example like what happened at the Icarus base. Any leader should know the welfare of his people (especially since their were civiliians) is more important than the mission