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Originally posted by jeri View PostYes, it's really a shame that SGU didn't get the full 5 years that was planned.
Robert Carlyle really is quite fantasitc, for me it is amazing to think that he could go from Begbie in Trainspotting to the lead in the Full Monty for instance, then there is other stuff he was in like Hamish Macbeth (which my English mother watches), 28 months later etc
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I know I'm in the smallest minority ever here, but I would easily trade all of SGA for more SGU. For me, SGU is the pinnacle of the franchise. Sacrilege, I know.
I told my fiance a few days ago that if I had three wishes, I would use one of them to bring back SGU. So I guess you could say that I REALLY liked this show.
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Not sacrilege.
I liked SGA. I loved SGU.All plot and no character makes for a dull story... All plot and no character makes for a dull story... All plot and no character makes for a dull story... All plot and no character makes for a dull story...
"Scott isn't out. Actually, he'll probably soon get back in, then out, then in, then out, then in, with rhythm and stamina." reddevil 4/22/2010
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I kind of grew up with SG1 and after that SGA became at first a kind of a replacement but became quickly in the middle of season two, beginning of season three its own beauty but SGU was the golden ice tip of the franchise but as I said earlier I wouldn't trade any of the other shows for more SG:U butsigpic
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I wouldn't trade any SG-1 or SGA for more SGU, but I'd love more SGU. I would agree that it was the pinnacle of the franchise in many ways and was firing on all cylinders at the end of S2.
But I think all three series were great. And reality is that there would be no SGU without the other two. I think each series created a different dynamic - and we even saw SG-1 basically reboot the tone with S9.
Atlantis started out with a bang and never let up. SG-1 took a few seasons to really find its footing, but by S3 it was hitting with most every ep. SGU built slowly, but was far more character driven. And at least there was some humor still there, unlike a show like BSG which was mostly humorless (great show, but it could be oppressive).
Though I will say that SG-1 makes me laugh the most, but that has much to do with the chemistry. RDA is hilarious. Amanda Tapping has her own unique mannerisms that make her funny. Shanks has a great sarcastic wit as Daniel. And Browder and Black bring much humor with them in S9 and S10.
I could use more SG-1, SGA, and SGU, to be honest. I think all three shows had plenty of life left in them when they ended, though SGU had the most direct path to a few more years of plots since there was seemingly a destination that was planned from the beginning.
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Originally posted by Holden Caulfield View PostI am a Stargate fan so I watched all of SGA and as good as Joe Flanigan was, David Hewlett as Rodeny McKay was THE ONLY reason for watching that show. It was a very poor rip off of SG1 that had only McKay going for it.
Originally posted by Holden Caulfield View PostNow finally I am starting to get more mature and SGU comes out. Finally this is a Stargate that is for adults.
Originally posted by Holden Caulfield View PostThere is FINALLY real character development, real characters thrown together with different motivations and a real storyline. This is no longer our childish SG1 with the heros vanquishing the bad guys, go earth! This is a real drama with real people problems, a true show in every sense of the word.
One thing I dislike about SGU is how it's presented as "This isn't your old childish Stargate; this is a new, adult Stargate with real characters, with real edge, with real action & drama! SG1 and SGA were childish, this is hip, this is new, this is edgy, this is SGU!" I mean I get that it's something different but to use it as a praising point of the series, that doesn't entirely work.
Originally posted by Holden Caulfield View PostWe have a bunch of completely different people dealing with an extraordinary situation as best they can. This is a real human drama, and this is a series that can completely be taken seriously by the general populace. This is just a great TV show, nevermind the sci fi aspect.
I don't want a show like this to use sex, action, moments where the characters are trapped or even sci-fi tropes in order to entrance the audience; I want a show like this to focus on the characters and grow them, something which the show did not do as much even when given the chance.
Originally posted by Holden Caulfield View PostBasically my point is that this show might have been completely limited by Stargate name. This is the 3rd maybe 2nd best sci fi show of all time, but it got cancelled since it was in the same vein as the awesome but still childish SG1 which is just such a shame.
Originally posted by Holden Caulfield View PostIf I win the lottery the first thing I do is finance a Serenity sequel, the second thing I do is finance a SGU movie. Can't believe that this show got only 2 seasons <Snipped >
Originally posted by Holden Caulfield View PostSGA got 5 seasons and even that SG1 got the Ori years. I would trade 5 years of SGA + 2 years of Ori SG1 for ONE MORE SEASON OF SGU!!!! Please tell me I am not the only one.
And to add my two cents on the matter. I wouldn't say SGU was underrated; in fact in my opinion it was overrated because the people constantly praised the show as if it were a masterpiece when I couldn't see anything that made it as grand as it seemed; don't get me wrong, there are good episodes but the series as a whole is overrated. Underrated is when something is truly good, truly amazing in every sense of the word but barely anybody pays it any mind; there are barely any mentions of it or even websites for it, even the fanbase for it could be considered a niche in it's own right.
Do you know what's truly underrated? "Babar (1989-1991)", barely anybody has heard about the show and there is barely any information about the show itself, compared to SGU which I'm sure got a lot of mentions on the web and etc. during it's run on Syfy. I mean have you seen the number of vids dedicated to SGU? If I win the lottery the first thing I'll do is try to bring back "Babar" because I felt it had more stories to tell and more people should really discover the magic and wonder that is this show.Back from the grave.
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I'm glad I didn't have to say that, I would just be called a "H8ter"
As for Babar, it *may* not be well known it the US, but my kids watch and enjoy Babar most days, so perhaps you may want to consider the "where", rather than the "what" in this instance?sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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I would trade the Ori seasons, the final Atlantis season, the entire DS9, the entire Infinity(SG animated) and possibly the entire TAS(Star Trek animated) for at least 1 extra SGU season."I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational in order to prove that you care... or why it should be necessary to prove it at all."
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I had a number of issues with SGU, however, I felt it was developing into what was going to be a great a show.
One of the things which annoyed me about SGU was the (IMO) poor use of the "kino" net-based material. I'm fairly net aware and I didn't know of their existence until perhaps somewhere in season two.
There is stuff in those (heck, all of them) which could have been included into a regular TV episode, and had that been done, may have helped with their falling ratings. They provided humor, pathos and added to character and plot development in so many ways.
"Drop the Sirs", "Not Being There", "All the Stages", "Like a Hug", and "Wait for It" are some of the best.
regards,
G.Go for Marty...
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Originally posted by Zombies Rise from the Sea View PostUnderrated is when something is truly good, truly amazing in every sense of the word but barely anybody pays it any mind; there are barely any mentions of it or even websites for it, even the fanbase for it could be considered a niche in it's own right.
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Not sure how anyone gets the idea their desire to swap one for the other has any relevance.
What is the point?
I liked SG1, I liked SGA more and SGU was by far in a class by itself
Perhaps BSG embarrassed the SG producers who felt they wanted to play in the grown up arena of TV medium as even the music was BSGish.
That is not a bad thing. Porsche did not invent the SUV but they sure make a great one now and SGU may have been strongly influenced by the quality of character interaction and more realistic uneven human behavior of BSG but they did it in a way that separated it as well as give it a quality level that almost removed it too far from the simplistic first two series.
Bad economic timing
The only thing deserving of more seasons was Firefly
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