Alien races general discussion

[Colonel Mitchell]

I can see them adding Teyla because at the time the Atlantis team needed as many people as possible because they were short staffed. But in Ronon's case it was just like "He's tough and I need a team member. Wanna Join?"

[coolguy55220]

I dont really mind adding Ronon as much as many of u guys... They were in a new galaxy, his race was wiped out, he was a runner and very good at getting away from wraith. It was a little sudden for him to get accepted as part of the team, but i suppose thats because they needed to trust each other in a whole new galaxy. Atlantis was also self maintained, meaning majority of the time, the base controlled itself, didnt need permission from external sources like SG1.

[Blistna]

Hey guys
Im pretty sure this is going to happen from the track record. There has always been an "alien" part of the team. Teal'c, Jonas, Ronan, Teyla, and in my opinion, they have been very vital parts of each show. Do you guys SGU will continue this trend? Do you think they would think about making a NONHUMAN character that alien character which is part of the team, or would that take away 2 much budget away?

Just wondering , really excited about SGU, cant wait to see the female casts of the show, hopefully those are announced soon.

post away...

I believe that something that would be unique, is that every season we have a new "alien" person -- and sometimes they turn on us. I mean, it would be cool to have a guest star for that season. And maybe at some point, they will have someone who will be there full time...but I somehow doubt it.

But you'll never know!

[SG-18]

Unless the writers can guarantee another teal'c like character ( in the sense of development) then no way.

[jenks]

I would rather there wasn't one, the show would be more interesting in my eyes if the characters have to find out things for themselves about their new surroundings rather than have a convenient alien character there to spoon feed them information.

[Inquisitor]

Teyla would have been added because she acted like a diplomat and had connections with other races which was needed in season 1 (Underground is a good example, although it went wrong..)

Ronon replaced Ford, and brought superior fighting skills and was ex-military.

I don't see a problem with either.

What I didn't like was Teyla being given command of Atlantis etc. It's an Earth expedition, as if they would give a non Earth based member of personnel command.

I don't see a problem with that either. Telya is an experienced leader. She knows how run things and motivate people. Perhaps no one else was up to the task, or Weir didn't trust anyone else with the task of running things.

I guess you could sort of link this with a coalition between two political parties.
The leader is the leader of the biggest party, and the deputy leader is the leader of the other party.

[jenks]

With Atlantis they introduced the whole 'civilian' element so I didn't mind the 'alien' team members so much. What I didn't like was Teyla being given command of Atlantis etc. It's an Earth expedition, as if they would give a non Earth based member of personnel command.

The thing about all the alien characters in SG is they have been very human. Teal'c had different physiology but still looked human, the rest were basically humans.

So if they do introduce an 'alien' team member, I don't think they will be very nonhuman alien.

I didn't like that either, not believable at all.

[carno]

ok Teyla and Ronon had different circumstances than Teal'c and Jonas. SGC was closely run by the US government and the USAF. Atlantis was an Earth expedition run by non military IOA personal, plus Atlantis staff were from all over Earth and more likely to accept someone from a different culture.... they are all human anyway.

I bet the "alien" character will be an android or replicator created by the ancients to maintain the Destiny and will already be on the ship and it will cause drama and also help translate for the team and eventually become accepted after many trails.

[L1A1Rocker]

It has been standard U.S. practice to include indigenous peoples when conducting foreign ops.

[walter999]

I hate it. I really do.

I tend to side with Sergeant Bates and think that, (Teal'c excluded), aliens have no place being part of an SG team. Particularly when we consider that you can only join the US military if you're a US citizen. Letting a citizen of another bloody planet be part of an Earth military team? Hells no.

>you can only join the US military if you're a US citizen
completely false.
No personal offence,
but your statement is a bit of insult to those immigrant sodiers, who are serving in Iraq and Afgans...and sometimes sacrifcing their lives.
(and what they get after serving is a Green Card, not citizenship...though they can get one later...)

There were a lot of immigrant soldiers in the US army during Civil War...
and during 19 century, it was rare but not unprecidented a military attaché fighting along with the unit he was "attached..."

I just thought...you know, you should know there ARE soldiers who are not the US citizens who still fight in the Army, and some of whom died in Iraq and Afgan...

[Flyboy]

>you can only join the US military if you're a US citizen
completely false.
No personal offence,
but your statement is a bit of insult to those immigrant sodiers, who are serving in Iraq and Afgans...and sometimes sacrifcing their lives.
(and what they get after serving is a Green Card, not citizenship...though they can get one later...)

There were a lot of immigrant soldiers in the US army during Civil War...
and during 19 century, it was rare but not unprecidented a military attaché fighting along with the unit he was "attached..."

I just thought...you know, you should know there ARE soldiers who are not the US citizens who still fight in the Army, and some of whom died in Iraq and Afgan...

So are you telling me that I, a British citizen, could, should I choose, join the USAF?

I mean now, not after spending 10 years living in America.

If you are, then I will stand corrected.

Enlistment into the U.S. Air Force by citizens of countries other than the United States is limited to those foreign nationals who are legally residing in the United States and possess an Immigrations and Naturalization Service Alien Registration Card (INS Form I-151/551, commonly known as a "Green Card"). Applicants must be between 17 and 27; meet the mental, moral and physical standards for enlistment; and must speak, read and write English fluently

[jenks]

Loads of nationalities can join the British Army, pretty much anyone from a commonwealth nation + Ireland I believe...

[jelgate]

So are you telling me that I, a British citizen, could, should I choose, join the USAF?I mean now, not after spending 10 years living in America.If you are, then I will stand corrected.

Well it takes about 8 years to become a US citizen. What I gather from reading the USAF FAQ is you can join the US military if you have the legal documentation to prove you are a legal immigrant.

[Flyboy]

Well it takes about 8 years to become a US citizen. What I gather from reading the USAF FAQ is you can join the US military if you have the legal documentation to prove you are a legal immigrant.

Indeed. But being a legal immigrant is different to me as a Brit signing onto join the USAF. Maybe my technical langauge of citizenship and what not isn't fully correct. But what I do know is that you cannot just rock up from another country and sign on.

Jenks; Regarding the British military, the situation is as follows, and this is one that I can definitely comment without question on:

For Entry into the Armed Forces you must meet the following nationality conditions:

a. At all times since birth to have been a British, or Commonwealth citizen or an Irish national.

b. To have been born in the UK or a country or territory which is (or was then) within the Commonwealth, or Ireland.

Note: A waiver of the above requirements may be granted by the Secretary of State for Defence for candidates who are British or Commonwealth citizens or citizens of Ireland at the time of application regardless of place of birth or former nationality. Any person who seeks such a dispensation will have their case considered on it's individual merits.

c. For some specialist employments within the Armed Forces, it is necessary for you to have been a British citizen for at least 10 years and for both parents to have been born in a country of territory which is (or was then) within the Commonwealth or in Ireland, and to have always been Commonwealth citizens of citizens of Ireland.

Which again, does not constitute someone from a non Commomwealth nation (we regard that as being as good as being British it seems) arriving in Britain and signing up.

[magictrick]

Well to get back on topic...I think from what has been released so far about SGU all the main characters at this point will be from Earth so no aliens on the horizon.