Originally posted by ciannwn
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I've never thought of Sam as being a stereotypical 'by the book' military type. I've always seen her as adaptable, competent, able to keep her head in a crisis and good in combat when she needs to fight.
I think O'Neill is the best human character they've ever had in both series. He's wonderfully eccentric, has a dry wit etc. etc. but he's a first class soldier who knows that a book written for military operations on Earth isn't always useful for dealing with the unknown on alien planets.
I also like Hammond and Landry. Both of them were aware that what the politicians wanted often tended to be unrealistic because they had no experience of conditions 'out there', They took the approach of "We've been ordered to do this by the book but if you can find a way around it I'll look the other way while you get on with it."
I like Daniel too. Teal'c, for me, is the best alien character in both series. He's a warrior who can also be a politician when required. He did his best to blend in with Earth culture because he accepted that if he was going to live on Earth he'd have to do things their way. He never stopped being a Jaffa, though, as 'Talion' pointed out. It looked like he'd snapped and gone on the rampage but the end conversation with Bra'tac revealed that what he did was an honourable course of action according to the Jaffa culture. (Bra'tac is another of my favourite characters. He's a warrior who has learned wisdom through age and experience.)
I can't stand Sheppard and would rather have a Mitchell type on Atlantis.
I can accept McKay's behaviour and personality because he's a civilian. I'd have screamed if Sam had been like that because she's an Air Force officer as well as a scientist.
Sorry, but I've always seen Ronon's main role on the show as being the 'the mean, moody and hot guy with a big gun'. I thought the best bits of 'Sateda' were the scenes revealing some of Ronon's past. For me, the rest of it was just an excuse for him to look mean, moody and hot as he disposed of supposedly hard to kill Wraith with his big gun. If I was meant to be impressed by male strength and power I was definitely impressed by the Wraith hive leader even though he wasn't hot because I was thinking "Wow - he's awesome".
I like Teyla. She's a warrior with intelligence and diplomatic skills. I've always seen her as ending up like a female version of Brat'ac in around 30 or so years time.
If I was going to pick a group of warriors I'd go for people like Teyla, Teal'c and Bra'tac A calm warrior is likely to be good at tactics and strategy. Berserker types are useful if you need 'shock troops' but a bit of a liability the rest of the time. The only kind of berserker I'd want is a warrior who had learned a technique for working himself/herself into a battle frenzy so this state was optional, not automatic.
I've always liked Woolsey. As I'm in the UK I only got to see 'The Seed' last night. and I was very impressed with the way he handled things.
Give me characters with emotions who are capable of considering such things as "I know I want to punch this guy in the face but would it be the most constructive thing to do right now?"
Stubborn as in the following definition? -
refusing to move or change one's opinion; obstinate
This, to me, conjures up the worst kind of 'by the book' military type. Refusing to give up is one thing but refusing to listen to reason or advice is another.
I certainly wouldn't want characters who never made mistakes but there's a limit to how much stupidity I can take. See previous criticisms of Sheppard in this topic.
I'd expect characters to be faced with ethically challenging situations in a series which is supposed to have some drama in it. Life isn't just black and white - there are many shades of grey in between.
Neither do I.
Give me competent soldiers who have served in SGC teams for a few years. They regard 'the book' as offering useful guidelines for many situations but when it comes to alien races and conditions on alien plants they are capable of making it up as they go along if neccessary.
I think O'Neill is the best human character they've ever had in both series. He's wonderfully eccentric, has a dry wit etc. etc. but he's a first class soldier who knows that a book written for military operations on Earth isn't always useful for dealing with the unknown on alien planets.
I also like Hammond and Landry. Both of them were aware that what the politicians wanted often tended to be unrealistic because they had no experience of conditions 'out there', They took the approach of "We've been ordered to do this by the book but if you can find a way around it I'll look the other way while you get on with it."
I like Daniel too. Teal'c, for me, is the best alien character in both series. He's a warrior who can also be a politician when required. He did his best to blend in with Earth culture because he accepted that if he was going to live on Earth he'd have to do things their way. He never stopped being a Jaffa, though, as 'Talion' pointed out. It looked like he'd snapped and gone on the rampage but the end conversation with Bra'tac revealed that what he did was an honourable course of action according to the Jaffa culture. (Bra'tac is another of my favourite characters. He's a warrior who has learned wisdom through age and experience.)
I can't stand Sheppard and would rather have a Mitchell type on Atlantis.
I can accept McKay's behaviour and personality because he's a civilian. I'd have screamed if Sam had been like that because she's an Air Force officer as well as a scientist.
Sorry, but I've always seen Ronon's main role on the show as being the 'the mean, moody and hot guy with a big gun'. I thought the best bits of 'Sateda' were the scenes revealing some of Ronon's past. For me, the rest of it was just an excuse for him to look mean, moody and hot as he disposed of supposedly hard to kill Wraith with his big gun. If I was meant to be impressed by male strength and power I was definitely impressed by the Wraith hive leader even though he wasn't hot because I was thinking "Wow - he's awesome".
I like Teyla. She's a warrior with intelligence and diplomatic skills. I've always seen her as ending up like a female version of Brat'ac in around 30 or so years time.
If I was going to pick a group of warriors I'd go for people like Teyla, Teal'c and Bra'tac A calm warrior is likely to be good at tactics and strategy. Berserker types are useful if you need 'shock troops' but a bit of a liability the rest of the time. The only kind of berserker I'd want is a warrior who had learned a technique for working himself/herself into a battle frenzy so this state was optional, not automatic.
I've always liked Woolsey. As I'm in the UK I only got to see 'The Seed' last night. and I was very impressed with the way he handled things.
Give me characters with emotions who are capable of considering such things as "I know I want to punch this guy in the face but would it be the most constructive thing to do right now?"
Stubborn as in the following definition? -
refusing to move or change one's opinion; obstinate
This, to me, conjures up the worst kind of 'by the book' military type. Refusing to give up is one thing but refusing to listen to reason or advice is another.
I certainly wouldn't want characters who never made mistakes but there's a limit to how much stupidity I can take. See previous criticisms of Sheppard in this topic.
I'd expect characters to be faced with ethically challenging situations in a series which is supposed to have some drama in it. Life isn't just black and white - there are many shades of grey in between.
Neither do I.
Give me competent soldiers who have served in SGC teams for a few years. They regard 'the book' as offering useful guidelines for many situations but when it comes to alien races and conditions on alien plants they are capable of making it up as they go along if neccessary.
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